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> I'd like to have privacy, but even if I take every measure I can take, unless I get rid of my credit cards, bank accounts, house, etc, I'll never have it anyw

by hjek 8y ago

> I'd like to have privacy, but even if I take every measure I can take, unless I get rid of my credit cards, bank accounts, house, etc, I'll never have it anyway, so... So if you can't have perfect privacy, you'll have nothing at all? That's quite an all-or-nothing way of looking at this issue. Well, I was out today when it started raining. I had my raincoat and my wellies in my rucksack, but I didn't have any water proof pants. I'd like to be dry, but unless I could get water proof pants, I'm not going to be dry, so ...

Gpetrium 8y ago
I don't think he is saying to have nothing at all (refer to credit report freeze), it just means that he picked different fights than the ones you have. Similar to your close family members
- shados 8y ago
  Bingo. There's a subset of battles I just gave up on to spend my energy elsewhere. The info Facebook has on me is extremely trivial compared to what's actually out there for anyone to see (like my home address, my phone number, associated with my property value and my email address...which is something I actually care about but can't hide...by law. So what silly things my cat did yesterday? Go right ahead.)
smacke 8y ago
> So if you can't have perfect privacy, you'll have nothing at all? That's quite an all-or-nothing way of looking at this issue. I don't think that's the point; I think the OP is saying that in OP's particular case, the marginal benefit of Facebook privacy is much smaller than the marginal benefit of privacy in other aspects of life, and the lack of privacy from these various other aspects seem to be here to stay, therefore why worry about something relatively trivial like Facebook? There may be other fallacies in OP's assumptions of course, but those notwithstanding I agree with the underlying logic. E.g. if I deem riding motorcycles an acceptable risk, then arguably I shouldn't spend energy worrying about whether my airplane will crash.
shados 8y ago
No. I'll take the privacy I can get. However there's a subset of things that I can't hide because they're all over the place, so while I won't post my address here, I'm not particularly afraid at the prospect of Facebook using/leaking it. All my social media posts will be public sooner or later as those orgs inevitably get hacked at some point, so I don't expect privacy there either. In cases where its realistic in the current world to get privacy, I'll take everything I can get: eg I still think there's a reasonable shot at eventually making cities enforce rules that prevent people from bringing a drone to my window on the 5th freagin floor to take pictures of my bedroom, and I'll certainly push for that to death.

by hjek 8y ago

Gpetrium 8y ago

I don't think he is saying to have nothing at all (refer to credit report freeze), it just means that he picked different fights than the ones you have. Similar to your close family members

shados 8y ago
Bingo. There's a subset of battles I just gave up on to spend my energy elsewhere. The info Facebook has on me is extremely trivial compared to what's actually out there for anyone to see (like my home address, my phone number, associated with my property value and my email address...which is something I actually care about but can't hide...by law. So what silly things my cat did yesterday? Go right ahead.)

smacke 8y ago

> So if you can't have perfect privacy, you'll have nothing at all? That's quite an all-or-nothing way of looking at this issue. I don't think that's the point; I think the OP is saying that in OP's particular case, the marginal benefit of Facebook privacy is much smaller than the marginal benefit of privacy in other aspects of life, and the lack of privacy from these various other aspects seem to be here to stay, therefore why worry about something relatively trivial like Facebook? There may be other fallacies in OP's assumptions of course, but those notwithstanding I agree with the underlying logic. E.g. if I deem riding motorcycles an acceptable risk, then arguably I shouldn't spend energy worrying about whether my airplane will crash.

shados 8y ago

No. I'll take the privacy I can get. However there's a subset of things that I can't hide because they're all over the place, so while I won't post my address here, I'm not particularly afraid at the prospect of Facebook using/leaking it. All my social media posts will be public sooner or later as those orgs inevitably get hacked at some point, so I don't expect privacy there either. In cases where its realistic in the current world to get privacy, I'll take everything I can get: eg I still think there's a reasonable shot at eventually making cities enforce rules that prevent people from bringing a drone to my window on the 5th freagin floor to take pictures of my bedroom, and I'll certainly push for that to death.