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The title of this article should rather be "How I approach project management as a PhD student in a computer science research group". In my experience, there is

The title of this article should rather be "How I approach project management as a PhD student in a computer science research group". In my experience, there is no silver bullet for PhD projects. It really depends on the field, the advisor and the student.

salty_biscuits 8y ago
My strategy was to have a kid. Really lights a fire under you and motivates you to finish before you rapidly go broke.
- chrisseaton 8y ago
  Do they have deadlines in the US? I've heard about US PhD students going on for seven years, ten years, fourteen years, and so on. In the UK I had to submit before four years. If I didn't do that I literally just failed the degree. I worked twenty-hour days for about a month at the end and then submitted with one day to go. Not even exaggerating.
  - salty_biscuits 8y ago
    I'm in Australia, no deadline when I went through but it seems like it is changing. Plenty of friends who took 6+ years, record of 13.
  - mattkrause 8y ago
    In the US, there's a lot of administrative pressure to keep the time-to-degree somewhere in the neighborhood of five or six years, but there's not usually a fixed cut-off date for everyone there. Instead, they just get increasingly insistent about you making "forward progress" and increasingly reluctant to keep your funding going.
  - pbnjay 8y ago
    I've been at 3 different universities now, and all of them have a 8-year cutoff for credits expiring even at the PhD level. So I've definitely seen folks push that number but in my experience no one has gone over that.
  - hyperpallium 8y ago
    Brian May, started 1970, submitted 2007. https://ewikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_May#Scientific_career https://ewikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_May#Scientific_career They may have made an exception.
    - ltratt 8y ago
      The hard time limit on UK PhDs is a recent-ish thing, which started coming in around 2010ish from memory (as is usual with such things, there was a fairly long phase-in, which messes with my memory). Broadly speaking, anyone who started in the old system could still carry on for as long as they wanted. [It's also possible to "suspend regulations" -- which is University speak for "something happened which the rules don't deal with sensibly" -- and extend a PhD's length, though this is generally accompanied by weeping and gnashing of teeth by administrators. It's much harder to do than it used to be.]
  - eatbitseveryday 8y ago
    7.5 years for myself, USA PhD at top-ten institution in Computer Science. This was straight from Bachelor's without Master's degree.
  - sdinsn 8y ago
    In the US, most go from BS to PhD, not BS to MS to PhD. A MS is 2 years, so your deadline would be 6 years if it was the same system.
    - chrisseaton 8y ago
      No that’s the same in the UK. You wouldn’t normally do both an MS (we’d call it a MSc) and PhD - you’d just get on and do the PhD. And what’s more four years is the limit - the intention is three. So in the UK most people go from zero to PhD in six years total, rather than ten or more in the US. And we still manage to get papers into top tier venues in that time so it doesn’t seem to be too short. I know someone in Austria who got a great PhD in two years with multiple top-tier papers! That’s pretty extreme though.
- johnminter 8y ago
  That worked for my wife and me as well :). To be fair, my advisor went on sabbatical for a year and I helped manage the group while he was gone. I learned a lot... My wife was an organic chemist working with some nasty monomers (not good for pregnancy...), so we swapped some tasks. She did my literature searches (this was before easy access to data bases) and I handled her last few reactions. Everything worked out well. The salary for a research scientist was very welcome at the end...

salty_biscuits 8y ago

My strategy was to have a kid. Really lights a fire under you and motivates you to finish before you rapidly go broke.

chrisseaton 8y ago
Do they have deadlines in the US? I've heard about US PhD students going on for seven years, ten years, fourteen years, and so on. In the UK I had to submit before four years. If I didn't do that I literally just failed the degree. I worked twenty-hour days for about a month at the end and then submitted with one day to go. Not even exaggerating.
- salty_biscuits 8y ago
  I'm in Australia, no deadline when I went through but it seems like it is changing. Plenty of friends who took 6+ years, record of 13.
- mattkrause 8y ago
  In the US, there's a lot of administrative pressure to keep the time-to-degree somewhere in the neighborhood of five or six years, but there's not usually a fixed cut-off date for everyone there. Instead, they just get increasingly insistent about you making "forward progress" and increasingly reluctant to keep your funding going.
- pbnjay 8y ago
  I've been at 3 different universities now, and all of them have a 8-year cutoff for credits expiring even at the PhD level. So I've definitely seen folks push that number but in my experience no one has gone over that.
- hyperpallium 8y ago
  Brian May, started 1970, submitted 2007. https://ewikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_May#Scientific_career https://ewikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_May#Scientific_career They may have made an exception.
  - ltratt 8y ago
    The hard time limit on UK PhDs is a recent-ish thing, which started coming in around 2010ish from memory (as is usual with such things, there was a fairly long phase-in, which messes with my memory). Broadly speaking, anyone who started in the old system could still carry on for as long as they wanted. [It's also possible to "suspend regulations" -- which is University speak for "something happened which the rules don't deal with sensibly" -- and extend a PhD's length, though this is generally accompanied by weeping and gnashing of teeth by administrators. It's much harder to do than it used to be.]
- eatbitseveryday 8y ago
  7.5 years for myself, USA PhD at top-ten institution in Computer Science. This was straight from Bachelor's without Master's degree.
- sdinsn 8y ago
  In the US, most go from BS to PhD, not BS to MS to PhD. A MS is 2 years, so your deadline would be 6 years if it was the same system.
  - chrisseaton 8y ago
    No that’s the same in the UK. You wouldn’t normally do both an MS (we’d call it a MSc) and PhD - you’d just get on and do the PhD. And what’s more four years is the limit - the intention is three. So in the UK most people go from zero to PhD in six years total, rather than ten or more in the US. And we still manage to get papers into top tier venues in that time so it doesn’t seem to be too short. I know someone in Austria who got a great PhD in two years with multiple top-tier papers! That’s pretty extreme though.
johnminter 8y ago
That worked for my wife and me as well :). To be fair, my advisor went on sabbatical for a year and I helped manage the group while he was gone. I learned a lot... My wife was an organic chemist working with some nasty monomers (not good for pregnancy...), so we swapped some tasks. She did my literature searches (this was before easy access to data bases) and I handled her last few reactions. Everything worked out well. The salary for a research scientist was very welcome at the end...