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But that's actually a tenant of privacy: You are free to care about it only when it matters, and you chose who and on what terms enter into your privacy sphere.

by jimmy1 8y ago

But that's actually a tenant of privacy: You are free to care about it only when it matters, and you chose who and on what terms enter into your privacy sphere. Privacy is the inherent understood baseline. Everything else needs to justify it's existence, with explicit consent, and that consent can be removed whenever the individual feels like their individual liberty is now being violated. I really like this definition of privacy on the Wikipedia page about the subject: > The right to privacy is our right to keep a domain around us, which includes all those things that are part of us, such as our body, home, property, thoughts, feelings, secrets and identity. The right to privacy gives us the ability to choose which parts in this domain can be accessed by others, and to control the extent, manner and timing of the use of those parts we choose to disclose

Barrin92 8y ago
This individualist or spacial definition of privacy doesn't make much sense in a world where the effects of privacy loss have macro effects and aren't limited to 'domains'. If you whip out your smartphone while I have a conversation next to you, even in a private or semi-public space, and my records get send somewhere without my knowledge, did you just violate my privacy? If my boss has a speaker on his desk and I can't reasonably expect to be listened to, but he records me anyway, how do I prevent this? Privacy needs to be understood as a social good, not as an individual right. Privacy is being destroyed in the same way pollution diminishes air quality, if you have privacy only locked into your home with the blinds shut you might as well not have privacy at all. Privacy needs to be drastically expanded to have meaning for connected people in a social environment. It should mean I can use the train without being tracked, state a political opinion without forever having it pinned to my name, and without having to feel supervised every time I eat something unhealthy or say something that resembles dissent.
- jimmy1 8y ago
  > If you whip out your smartphone while I have a conversation next to you, even in a private or semi-public space, and my records get send somewhere without my knowledge, did you just violate my privacy? Yes. Privacy is everyone's responsibility. And I say this working in the digital marketing space. > If my boss has a speaker on his desk and I can't reasonably expect to be listened to, but he records me anyway, how do I prevent this? You have many options, the most extreme is by not working for people who put you in situations like that. But maybe having a talk would suffice. "Hey sorry I feel like my personal liberty is being violated here, I would prefer not to be recorded without my consent" If your boss insists, then you have the choice of not revealing anything you are not comfortable with being recorded all the way again to the extreme case of replying to everything your boss says with some same crafted response, as an example, "I would love to reply/answer, but not while being recorded". > Privacy needs to be understood as a social good, not as an individual right. 100% emphatically absolutely not if not for the simple reason that this is contrary to American liberty and where our rights come from, and once you go down that hole, there is no going back. > Privacy needs to be drastically expanded to have meaning for connected people in a social environment. One of my favorite writers on this exact topic is Daniel J Solove. (He's the author of one of my favorite papers of all time "I've got nothing to hide and other misunderstandings of privacy" which is now subsequently a book called "Nothing to Hide")

by jimmy1 8y ago

Barrin92 8y ago

This individualist or spacial definition of privacy doesn't make much sense in a world where the effects of privacy loss have macro effects and aren't limited to 'domains'. If you whip out your smartphone while I have a conversation next to you, even in a private or semi-public space, and my records get send somewhere without my knowledge, did you just violate my privacy? If my boss has a speaker on his desk and I can't reasonably expect to be listened to, but he records me anyway, how do I prevent this? Privacy needs to be understood as a social good, not as an individual right. Privacy is being destroyed in the same way pollution diminishes air quality, if you have privacy only locked into your home with the blinds shut you might as well not have privacy at all. Privacy needs to be drastically expanded to have meaning for connected people in a social environment. It should mean I can use the train without being tracked, state a political opinion without forever having it pinned to my name, and without having to feel supervised every time I eat something unhealthy or say something that resembles dissent.

jimmy1 8y ago
> If you whip out your smartphone while I have a conversation next to you, even in a private or semi-public space, and my records get send somewhere without my knowledge, did you just violate my privacy? Yes. Privacy is everyone's responsibility. And I say this working in the digital marketing space. > If my boss has a speaker on his desk and I can't reasonably expect to be listened to, but he records me anyway, how do I prevent this? You have many options, the most extreme is by not working for people who put you in situations like that. But maybe having a talk would suffice. "Hey sorry I feel like my personal liberty is being violated here, I would prefer not to be recorded without my consent" If your boss insists, then you have the choice of not revealing anything you are not comfortable with being recorded all the way again to the extreme case of replying to everything your boss says with some same crafted response, as an example, "I would love to reply/answer, but not while being recorded". > Privacy needs to be understood as a social good, not as an individual right. 100% emphatically absolutely not if not for the simple reason that this is contrary to American liberty and where our rights come from, and once you go down that hole, there is no going back. > Privacy needs to be drastically expanded to have meaning for connected people in a social environment. One of my favorite writers on this exact topic is Daniel J Solove. (He's the author of one of my favorite papers of all time "I've got nothing to hide and other misunderstandings of privacy" which is now subsequently a book called "Nothing to Hide")