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The SEC dogs Elon Musk but doesn't dare lock horns with Larry Ellison, the pathological corporate sociopath whose company locks users into seemingly never endin

The SEC dogs Elon Musk but doesn't dare lock horns with Larry Ellison, the pathological corporate sociopath whose company locks users into seemingly never ending software leases with threatened audits and whose corp has teams of lawyers and only offers "limited breakdowns in its financial disclosures" . . . Larry recently bragged how even Amazon is under his cloak using Oracle because there is nothing out there better. Bezos response: We'll build our own database no matter what the cost and then we'll compete against you signing up what were your customers. How do you like that Larry ?

smt88 8y ago
None of the Oracle behaviors you’re describing are the responsibility of the SEC.
mistermann 8y ago
Did Bezos really say something like this?
- ckozlowski 8y ago
  I don't think so. But Andy Jassy has not been quiet in his criticism of their model. AWS Aurora wasn't built out of spite, however. It was/is designed to be a cloud-native database from the start because there was a perceived desire for the product. As it's AWS's fastest growing service, the team deduced correctly. Disclaimer: I work for AWS.
bufferoverflow 8y ago
Amazon has developed Aurora and DynamoDB. And they are free to use any of the open source ones. Your narrative makes little sense.
- ceejayoz 8y ago
  Ellison claims (https://www.zdnet.com/article/amazons-consumer-business-moves-from-oracle-to-aws-but-larry-ellisons-wont-stop-talking/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/amazons-consumer-business-move...) Aurora is Oracle's because it's MySQL based: > So this is another claim I'm going to make, Aurora, not built by Amazon, built by us, called MySQL. Amazon just gave it a new name. It's also true of Redshift. Amazon didn't build Redshift, that's not what they do. These are -- they just open-sourced pieces where they built -- that they used to build their cloud. They did a great job. They did a great job of making those pieces available in a coherent -- deliver them in a coherent cloud. I give them a lot of credit. But they don't build databases. Amazon still runs all of their -- all of Amazon on Oracle Database. They are trying, they promised because they don't like me reminding them of that publicly. They said they're trying to get off Oracle by 2020. > Aurora is our other database. It's our low-end database. It's our database. It's not theirs. Well, it's open source. Anyone can use it for nothing. (This is bullshit, of course.)
camjohnson26 8y ago
Oh the irony that Larry Ellison is a big Musk supporter and is on Tesla’s board.
brootstrap 8y ago
I understand how existing legacy companies would use Oracle db but are any new companies out there adopting oracle software? Is there some wave of startups that pretend it is 1980 buying licenses for database tech?

smt88 8y ago

None of the Oracle behaviors you’re describing are the responsibility of the SEC.

mistermann 8y ago

Did Bezos really say something like this?

ckozlowski 8y ago
I don't think so. But Andy Jassy has not been quiet in his criticism of their model. AWS Aurora wasn't built out of spite, however. It was/is designed to be a cloud-native database from the start because there was a perceived desire for the product. As it's AWS's fastest growing service, the team deduced correctly. Disclaimer: I work for AWS.

bufferoverflow 8y ago

Amazon has developed Aurora and DynamoDB. And they are free to use any of the open source ones. Your narrative makes little sense.

ceejayoz 8y ago
Ellison claims (https://www.zdnet.com/article/amazons-consumer-business-moves-from-oracle-to-aws-but-larry-ellisons-wont-stop-talking/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/amazons-consumer-business-move...) Aurora is Oracle's because it's MySQL based: > So this is another claim I'm going to make, Aurora, not built by Amazon, built by us, called MySQL. Amazon just gave it a new name. It's also true of Redshift. Amazon didn't build Redshift, that's not what they do. These are -- they just open-sourced pieces where they built -- that they used to build their cloud. They did a great job. They did a great job of making those pieces available in a coherent -- deliver them in a coherent cloud. I give them a lot of credit. But they don't build databases. Amazon still runs all of their -- all of Amazon on Oracle Database. They are trying, they promised because they don't like me reminding them of that publicly. They said they're trying to get off Oracle by 2020. > Aurora is our other database. It's our low-end database. It's our database. It's not theirs. Well, it's open source. Anyone can use it for nothing. (This is bullshit, of course.)

camjohnson26 8y ago

Oh the irony that Larry Ellison is a big Musk supporter and is on Tesla’s board.

brootstrap 8y ago

I understand how existing legacy companies would use Oracle db but are any new companies out there adopting oracle software? Is there some wave of startups that pretend it is 1980 buying licenses for database tech?