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So just change the hours you work during the Winter! Why do you have to modify the actual clock that everyone else uses to do that?
by rsik 8y ago
So just change the hours you work during the Winter! Why do you have to modify the actual clock that everyone else uses to do that?
- athenot 8y agoThat would be great but convincing School Boards of that would be a non-trivial task.
- magduf 8y agoAccording to someone farther down in the comments here, India has no DST and simply starts school later in the winter. I guess that's just too hard for America?
- stonecharioteer 8y agoI'm an Indian and that doesn't ring a bell. School used to start at 8.00 for me. Throughout the year. No dst. When I started working for a European company, it was insane that I had to wind back clocks.
- magduf 8y agoSorry if I was incorrect. Here's the comment I was referring to: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19318022 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19318022
- rsik 8y agoDST causes trauma for people with bipolar disorder, heart attacks go up, etc. Also, on a selfish note, it's irritating to program around. DST is a legislative solution to the problem of getting everyone to change scheduling. So why not use legislation to get those school boards to change scheduling directly?
- rsik 8y agodownvotes instead of rational arguments? On HN? Either pigs are flying or it's Wednesday again.
- dang 8y agoCould you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News? Also, going on about downvoting breaks the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- magduf 8y agoI can answer this one to some extent, at least for America: the school boards are all run at the local level, which is why our education system is so inconsistent and generally poor, and there's huge resistance to any mandates from the Federal level, and it's like herding cats to get the States to agree on anything. I suppose it should be possible to get State governments to separately legislate that school districts in that state change their hours (since, after all, some states may care more than others, and different states really do have different latitudes which affects their daylight hours), but again it'd have huge resistance since every local school board thinks they know best.
- rmah 8y agoThe US federal government does not have the power to do that.
- dragonwriter 8y ago> So just change the hours you work during the Winter Only the petit bourgeoisie (and not all of them, because often the capital and labor portion of their support is separated in modern capitalist/mixed economies) both labor and have even the theoretical ability to direct the hours of the labor, and even there there is a coordination problem since there is value in aligning core work hours with others. In any case, because consistent hours are, ceteris paribus, slightly cheaper, rationally it will be more common for work not to move without mandated clock shifts. EDIT: To clarify, more common than is the case with clock shifts, not more common than work having seasonal shifts. The latter may also be the case, but is not the conclusion just from the being a marginal cost that doesn't exist when clock shifts are mandated.
- standardUser 8y agoMost people can't simply change the hours they work for their employer and it sounds out of touch to present an argument that assumes most workers have that level of autonomy.
- catdog 8y agoMaybe legislation should focus on that problem makeing sure that a) people who could have this autonomy can get it and b) where fixed schedules are unavoidable they get shifted accordingly instead of playing with the clock.