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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_temperature_record#/media/File:All_palaeotemps.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_temperature_record#/m... When the dinosaurs lived the world was 10 celcius warmer. ~200 million years later the world was 14 celcius warmer than today. Life thrived worldwide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene Global warming is good for the earth. Every 200,000 years there's a huge spike in warming. Which if you look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eemian#/media/File:Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eemian#/media/File:Carbon_Diox... Notice the CO2 circle showing the last 1000 years; but if you circled the entire green line from about ~20,000 years. There's huge spike that couldn't possible be human activity. It doesn't even appear like we are in control.

polotics 8y ago
Maybe you should check out the realclimate website.
- sleepysysadmin 8y ago
  I'm not denying that climate change is happening and the cause doesn't matter. I'm saying there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. Life was better when the earth was warmer and the alarmist predictions claiming the world is ending has been proven wrong over and over now.
ben_w 8y ago
> Notice the CO2 circle showing the last 1000 years; but if you circled the entire green line from about ~20,000 years. There's huge spike that couldn't possible be human activity. You mean the bit labelled “Ice age cycles”? Which we are currently exceeding the maxima of by about as much as the difference between maxima and minima?
- sleepysysadmin 8y ago
  The worst predictions of warming, which has basically been disproven already you can ignore the 8.5 black/red circles, have all been untrue to date. The doomsayers have been predicting the end of the world forever, this time they are just using climate change as their mayan calendar. The world can get 10 celcius warmer and nothing is wrong; it'll make the earth that much better. Bring it on.
  - ben_w 8y ago
    > The worst predictions of warming, which has basically been disproven already you can ignore the 8.5 black/red circles, have all been untrue to date. Took me a while to realise you were talking about the other picture you linked to. Those are RCP8.5, where “RCP” means “Representative concentration pathway”. We’re just below the mean estimate for that, but closer to that than to the RCP6.0. A bigger problem is that you can’t simultaneously say that 8.5 F is a “worst” prediction and say that “10 C is great”. As I’ve said on another thread, I don’t expect us to have long term climate problems, because I’m happy to project the current exponential growth of PV for another 20 years — but you don’t get to just pretend that world experts are wrong just because you don’t like the conclusions they bring to you. After all, plenty of civilisations have ended, and that’s what worries (other) people.
    - sleepysysadmin 8y ago
      >Those are RCP8.5, where “RCP” means “Representative concentration pathway”. We’re just below the mean estimate for that, but closer to that than to the RCP6.0. Which it's important to see the claim or prediction. When there are 4 predictions and only the most extreme option is predicting any real change. It's VERY disingenuous to only include the worst prediction. >A bigger problem is that you can’t simultaneously say that 8.5 F is a “worst” prediction and say that “10 C is great”. I disagree. You can absolutely discuss the point being made. It's the worst prediction that we already know is NOT happening. That stands on it's own. But moreover, even if it's true. It doesn't matter. Global warming is going to be just fine. It's doomsayers who have blown it out of proportion. >As I’ve said on another thread, I don’t expect us to have long term climate problems, My prediction by looking at the eocene period is that we will have long term climate changes. Except they will change for the better. >but you don’t get to just pretend that world experts are wrong just because you don’t like the conclusions they bring to you. This is an appeal to authority AND appeal to the masses. Double logical fallacy when you assert this. So far, the predictions made over the last 30 years have been wrong. Al Gore's predictions that by 2020 florida will be under water to a significant degree? That hasn't happened yet, I'm sure it's going to happen in the next 9 months... >After all, plenty of civilisations have ended, and that’s what worries (other) people. Prove that climate change will destroy the world or destroy our civilization. There has been MANY predictions now that have been outright falsified. The United Nations predicted that we were completely and utterly doomed to extinction if we didnt do as they say by the year 2000. That was wrong. They reissued their hoax and said 2012. That was wrong. IF you also are astutue these climate change doomsday hoaxes also lined up with Y2K and the Mayan Calendar hoaxes. Sorry but at this point I'm done with these doomsday hoaxes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGmYdSF7bKg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGmYdSF7bKg http://4hiroshimas.com/ http://4hiroshimas.com/ This is doomsayer hoaxes.
shawnb576 8y ago
This is denialist propaganda. We are the cause of the current warming cycle [1] and what this leaves out is timescales. The prior cycles took millennia, this is decades, and natural systems can’t adapt that fast. [1] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-02-25/study-evidence-humans-are-causing-global-warming-reaches-gold-standard%3Fcontext%3Damp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar...
- sleepysysadmin 8y ago
  I provided sources and facts. If you refuse to look at scientific facts by asserting I am denialist and/or propaganda. That's fine, keep your blinders on. For the record I'm not a denialist. I do believe global warming is happening. I just think there's absolutely nothing wrong.

polotics 8y ago

Maybe you should check out the realclimate website.

sleepysysadmin 8y ago
I'm not denying that climate change is happening and the cause doesn't matter. I'm saying there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. Life was better when the earth was warmer and the alarmist predictions claiming the world is ending has been proven wrong over and over now.

ben_w 8y ago

> Notice the CO2 circle showing the last 1000 years; but if you circled the entire green line from about ~20,000 years. There's huge spike that couldn't possible be human activity. You mean the bit labelled “Ice age cycles”? Which we are currently exceeding the maxima of by about as much as the difference between maxima and minima?

sleepysysadmin 8y ago
The worst predictions of warming, which has basically been disproven already you can ignore the 8.5 black/red circles, have all been untrue to date. The doomsayers have been predicting the end of the world forever, this time they are just using climate change as their mayan calendar. The world can get 10 celcius warmer and nothing is wrong; it'll make the earth that much better. Bring it on.
- ben_w 8y ago
  > The worst predictions of warming, which has basically been disproven already you can ignore the 8.5 black/red circles, have all been untrue to date. Took me a while to realise you were talking about the other picture you linked to. Those are RCP8.5, where “RCP” means “Representative concentration pathway”. We’re just below the mean estimate for that, but closer to that than to the RCP6.0. A bigger problem is that you can’t simultaneously say that 8.5 F is a “worst” prediction and say that “10 C is great”. As I’ve said on another thread, I don’t expect us to have long term climate problems, because I’m happy to project the current exponential growth of PV for another 20 years — but you don’t get to just pretend that world experts are wrong just because you don’t like the conclusions they bring to you. After all, plenty of civilisations have ended, and that’s what worries (other) people.
  - sleepysysadmin 8y ago
    >Those are RCP8.5, where “RCP” means “Representative concentration pathway”. We’re just below the mean estimate for that, but closer to that than to the RCP6.0. Which it's important to see the claim or prediction. When there are 4 predictions and only the most extreme option is predicting any real change. It's VERY disingenuous to only include the worst prediction. >A bigger problem is that you can’t simultaneously say that 8.5 F is a “worst” prediction and say that “10 C is great”. I disagree. You can absolutely discuss the point being made. It's the worst prediction that we already know is NOT happening. That stands on it's own. But moreover, even if it's true. It doesn't matter. Global warming is going to be just fine. It's doomsayers who have blown it out of proportion. >As I’ve said on another thread, I don’t expect us to have long term climate problems, My prediction by looking at the eocene period is that we will have long term climate changes. Except they will change for the better. >but you don’t get to just pretend that world experts are wrong just because you don’t like the conclusions they bring to you. This is an appeal to authority AND appeal to the masses. Double logical fallacy when you assert this. So far, the predictions made over the last 30 years have been wrong. Al Gore's predictions that by 2020 florida will be under water to a significant degree? That hasn't happened yet, I'm sure it's going to happen in the next 9 months... >After all, plenty of civilisations have ended, and that’s what worries (other) people. Prove that climate change will destroy the world or destroy our civilization. There has been MANY predictions now that have been outright falsified. The United Nations predicted that we were completely and utterly doomed to extinction if we didnt do as they say by the year 2000. That was wrong. They reissued their hoax and said 2012. That was wrong. IF you also are astutue these climate change doomsday hoaxes also lined up with Y2K and the Mayan Calendar hoaxes. Sorry but at this point I'm done with these doomsday hoaxes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGmYdSF7bKg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGmYdSF7bKg http://4hiroshimas.com/ http://4hiroshimas.com/ This is doomsayer hoaxes.

shawnb576 8y ago

This is denialist propaganda. We are the cause of the current warming cycle [1] and what this leaves out is timescales. The prior cycles took millennia, this is decades, and natural systems can’t adapt that fast. [1] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-02-25/study-evidence-humans-are-causing-global-warming-reaches-gold-standard%3Fcontext%3Damp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar...

sleepysysadmin 8y ago
I provided sources and facts. If you refuse to look at scientific facts by asserting I am denialist and/or propaganda. That's fine, keep your blinders on. For the record I'm not a denialist. I do believe global warming is happening. I just think there's absolutely nothing wrong.