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https://streamlabs.com/ https://streamlabs.com/ does exactly this with PayPal. It goes directly to the streamer, and shows the name of the streamer’s PayPal acc

https://streamlabs.com/ https://streamlabs.com/ does exactly this with PayPal. It goes directly to the streamer, and shows the name of the streamer’s PayPal account. For Chess Grandmaster Benjamin Finegold whose stream I watch on Twitch, that’s some chess education center in Atlanta. It also shows their email address and possibly a physical address, and it might show mine to them. I think the privacy issue might not make it work well for casual users like Patreon has, but for commercial users it would probably work better. I feel like I’m more likely to get my PayPal account flagged by donating to random streamers on StreamLabs than with an intermediary like Twitch or Patreon. I’m not too worried about it but I am more careful. It also helps that tipping is just a minor feature of the product. Their product is an OBS which shows overlays and stuff in the stream, including an animation when someone leaves a tip. They also sell merchandise much like CafePress. I have a coffee mug with Hikaru Nakamura on it. Some info: https://venturebeat.com/2018/10/07/how-streamlabs-is-helping-livestreamers-monetize-their-audience-via-tips/ https://venturebeat.com/2018/10/07/how-streamlabs-is-helping... If you can find a way to make tipping part of a larger product/service, it seems less likely to be used for money laundering, and to be more likely to work without a huge amount of expertise in the area of payment platforms.

hardwaresofton 8y ago
Exactly what streamlabs does is a thing I thought I might make some day -- now I can wipe it off my list since it seems like they are already producing a fantastic product. I really think that the streaming world could benefit from a decentralized streaming application but this seems like something streamlabs could easily pursue in a pivot or as a new feature so I think it could happen some day. Thanks for sharing how you feel using the service as well (being a bit more careful) -- I'm sure it will help OP a bunch
- thisacctforreal 8y ago
  Decentralization would require the streamer to have enough bandwidth to upload to each viewer. Uploading one stream to a CDN is ideal.
  - hardwaresofton 8y ago
    Right, except that decentralization is also the solution to fast data delivery -- CDNs work by decentralizing data, and if the people who built this were smart, they'd work in a way where users could get discounts for helping to spread/rehost paid streams (for a discount to their sub fee, for example), or choose to help a streamer out by replicating their stream for free. I personally think you could find a lot of people who would be willing to help CDN/share/host for streamers they support, a nice step between watch for free and upvote/like and send the streamer money. Even if you didn't want to go the P2P route, there's no reason that streamlabs can't step in to help provide that infrastructure if it's cost effective (i.e. if the streamer is paying) -- surely a streamer is going to be willing to drop $50 on extra resources for a stream if they think it's going to bring them >$50 worth of recognition/good content for their streamers. Streamlabs wouldn't even have to keep these resources on hand, they could spin them up on demand and just charge a slight premium. Even better, streamlabs could give streamers easy tools to enable purchasing cloud resources for better stream quality, and charge them for the convenience (and let them know of course that they pay the AWS bills at the end of the day).
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hardwaresofton 8y ago

Exactly what streamlabs does is a thing I thought I might make some day -- now I can wipe it off my list since it seems like they are already producing a fantastic product. I really think that the streaming world could benefit from a decentralized streaming application but this seems like something streamlabs could easily pursue in a pivot or as a new feature so I think it could happen some day. Thanks for sharing how you feel using the service as well (being a bit more careful) -- I'm sure it will help OP a bunch

thisacctforreal 8y ago
Decentralization would require the streamer to have enough bandwidth to upload to each viewer. Uploading one stream to a CDN is ideal.
- hardwaresofton 8y ago
  Right, except that decentralization is also the solution to fast data delivery -- CDNs work by decentralizing data, and if the people who built this were smart, they'd work in a way where users could get discounts for helping to spread/rehost paid streams (for a discount to their sub fee, for example), or choose to help a streamer out by replicating their stream for free. I personally think you could find a lot of people who would be willing to help CDN/share/host for streamers they support, a nice step between watch for free and upvote/like and send the streamer money. Even if you didn't want to go the P2P route, there's no reason that streamlabs can't step in to help provide that infrastructure if it's cost effective (i.e. if the streamer is paying) -- surely a streamer is going to be willing to drop $50 on extra resources for a stream if they think it's going to bring them >$50 worth of recognition/good content for their streamers. Streamlabs wouldn't even have to keep these resources on hand, they could spin them up on demand and just charge a slight premium. Even better, streamlabs could give streamers easy tools to enable purchasing cloud resources for better stream quality, and charge them for the convenience (and let them know of course that they pay the AWS bills at the end of the day).

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