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Not terrible. I have learned some things about how the NTP protocol was designed. And it is a good summary of trade-offs involved. You may or may not agree wit

Not terrible. I have learned some things about how the NTP protocol was designed. And it is a good summary of trade-offs involved. You may or may not agree with them, and they may or may not be important to you. However, I have learned even more things about how absolutely mind-bogglingly huge the egos of some posters here are.

DonHopkins 8y ago
Funny that you should mention mind-bogglingly huge egos in a discussion about ESR: > “Are you” she asked “the most famous programmer in the world?” > This was a question which I had, believe it or not, never thought about before. But it’s a reasonable one to ask... http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6839 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6839
- leoc 8y ago
  What's the relevance of this? It's certainly not the case that the presence of one person with an embarrassingly obvious craving for adulation in the conversation means that other people with distended egos of their own will stay away. The opposite is nearer true.
  - DonHopkins 8y ago
    If you're so sure that the grandparent comment is relevant, then please tell us exactly which messages you agree are from people with absolutely mind-bogglingly huge egos even larger than Eric S Raymond's? I haven't noticed anyone making any appeals to their own authority as arrogant as claiming to be the most famous programmer in the world. Are you saying that it takes a huge ego to point out ESR's long track record of making flawed arguments, and quote the many patently false, self-aggrandizing, racist and sexist things he's said in the past, or that there's something wrong with pointing out racism instead of silently condoning it?
AgentME 8y ago
Yeah I'm really surprised this article is getting as much shit as it is. There's details it misses, but it seems like a good enough intro to some of the trade-offs between fixed-size messages and self-describing ones, and designing for extensibility.

DonHopkins 8y ago

Funny that you should mention mind-bogglingly huge egos in a discussion about ESR: > “Are you” she asked “the most famous programmer in the world?” > This was a question which I had, believe it or not, never thought about before. But it’s a reasonable one to ask... http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6839 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6839

leoc 8y ago
What's the relevance of this? It's certainly not the case that the presence of one person with an embarrassingly obvious craving for adulation in the conversation means that other people with distended egos of their own will stay away. The opposite is nearer true.
- DonHopkins 8y ago
  If you're so sure that the grandparent comment is relevant, then please tell us exactly which messages you agree are from people with absolutely mind-bogglingly huge egos even larger than Eric S Raymond's? I haven't noticed anyone making any appeals to their own authority as arrogant as claiming to be the most famous programmer in the world. Are you saying that it takes a huge ego to point out ESR's long track record of making flawed arguments, and quote the many patently false, self-aggrandizing, racist and sexist things he's said in the past, or that there's something wrong with pointing out racism instead of silently condoning it?

AgentME 8y ago

Yeah I'm really surprised this article is getting as much shit as it is. There's details it misses, but it seems like a good enough intro to some of the trade-offs between fixed-size messages and self-describing ones, and designing for extensibility.