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I think the problem with any sort of selection/motion combo is that a selection has two endpoints (limiting to just single-selections; multi-selections and curs

I think the problem with any sort of selection/motion combo is that a selection has two endpoints (limiting to just single-selections; multi-selections and cursor make this a jillion times more complicated). When you make a motion you have to decide which one of the endpoints is the current cursor, and that's where I feel like you run into trouble. "Grow the selection up by one line" is a hard notion to express when you started by selecting down. Vim has visual select mode, which has a line-based, character-based, and block-based mode. I'm not totally sure that we need them to be distinct. The problem is that kakoune now has me vaguely dissatisfied with both vim and kakoune and I don't like it.

clarry 8y ago
I don't think the the two endpoints are that big of a deal. I know where I want to start selecting, so I can just navigate there and then expand the selection in one direction only. This is how it works with vi anyway, only you can't really expand the selection after the fact. In the rare case case when I miss the mark, I wouldn't mind pressing an extra key to move the cursor to the other end of the selection and expand from there. And yeah I feel that dissatisfaction too.
- greggyb 8y ago
  That extra key is o in vim's visual mode. It moves the cursor to the other end of the selection With the text below, your cursor is the pipe character. From the cursor position, in normal mode, press 'vjok' line1 line2| line3