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I think there are a few interesting wrinkles with regards to rent seeking in the current economy and how that works out for the middle class. • As a few people
by seem_2211 8y ago
I think there are a few interesting wrinkles with regards to rent seeking in the current economy and how that works out for the middle class.
• As a few people have pointed out, people often buy sunglasses for fashion and social signaling rather than on price. Wearing Tom Ford glasses means you're getting very good quality glasses, but mostly you are paying to wear Tom Ford glasses, in the same way that a Rolls Royce and a mid level BMW are functionally very similar, even though there is a 5x difference in price (if not a higher change). You're paying for the styling and the brand name.
• Where the money goes: for a lot of consumer brands, huge sums go into brand advertising. B2B companies spend this money on salespeople and tradeshows. I like to give the example of a Rolex. A new Rolex is worth $10-15k (if not more) because they spend tens of millions of dollars every year telling us all that that's why they're worth so much. Compare that to a lesser advertised brand - say Tag Heuer, and you'll see there's a pretty big difference in their pricing. Traditionally this money has gone into magazines / billboards / tv commercials / sports sponsorship - so this money is subsidizing middle class entertainment. On the B2B side, if you engage with a company like SAP, you'll get a professional sales team walking you through the buying process (they'll probably even spot you a few nice dinners along the way).
• "Rent seeking" is an interesting term, and while I agree with it in the context of sunglasses, it's a bit hard to nail down in a lot of the economy. Price is funny because lots of the things we produce now (particularly software, pharmaceuticals & entertainment) have revenue models that don't see much of an increase in marginal cost once you've covered the initial investment (10k people see your movie in cinemas vs 1m - provided you've got the infrastructure in place, it's not like the price of producing the movie goes up 100x).
• The culprits for the "middle class burden" is often pointed at healthcare and higher education for the simple reason that they have dramatically increased administrative costs which ultimately haven't added much (if any) value to the consumer (people argue my first point with regards to higher education - perhaps a Harvard education is worth $60k a year, although it's hard to see many other colleges worth that much for the brand alone).
- troels 8y agoCurious - Where do you have the information fro that TAG have a smaller advertising budget than Rolex? I would've assumed the opposite.
- seem_2211 8y agoThat was more anecdotal than fact based.
- rwmj 8y agoBetter comparison might be Seiko / Grand Seiko, considerably cheaper than a Rolex for the same quality of watch.
- troels 8y agoOk - Thought perhaps I was missing something. The analogy probably isn't a good fit for luxury watches, which is a truly weird industry. Rolex, with their near-mythological status could probably shut down all advertisement and still sell their watches. But your original point might still be true, regardless.
- seem_2211 8y agoI disagree, most luxury pricing is weird and counterintuitive. Rolex only has a "near-mythological" status because of all of their advertising. To give another example, we all know a lot about the iPhone, yet Apple put up far more billboards and other advertising for their new phones than anyone else.
- chillacy 8y agoI like this way of looking at it. The $15k Rolex is expensive because you’re paying them to tell other people how cool you are through branding. So when you wear the watch other people already recognize the brand and you get to flex on them.
- kamaal 8y agoI guess that works very similar to any purchase you could make in life. You don't get infinite utility for infinite money, point being its not possible you can derive more utility by spending more money forever. So after a while the utility is things like social status and wealth signaling. Apply this to things like buying a car, or a home and it makes a whole lot of sense. If you need that expensive carpet just to show off while a cheaper one could keep your feet equally warm, then at that point in time you are spending for status and wealth, not utility. In case of a watch, can your phone tell time? If so you are all set.
- AstralStorm 8y agoDepends on whom you invite in. Albeit really smart people would rent special furnishing for special occasions. Such services do exist.
- shermozle 8y agoWhich is why I pay no more than $5 for a Rolex in Bali. My favourite one has a slightly off-centre dial. Paying for that kind of quality!