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that's totally not the same thing.

TheCowboy 8y ago
"Online-reviews firm Yelp Inc. alleged that Google is breaking a promise it made as part of a 2012 regulatory settlement to not scrape content from certain third-party sites including Yelp, escalating its yearslong battle against the search giant." https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-rival-yelp-claims-search-giant-broke-promise-made-to-regulators-1505167498 https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-rival-yelp-claims-search...
- appsonify 8y ago
  your point being? that has nothing to do with bypassing IP bans and defeating captcha. see 3taps vs craigslist ruling from EFF. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/06/padmapper-and-3taps-settle-suit-craigslist-over-use-real-estate-facts https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/06/padmapper-and-3taps-se...
  - TheCowboy 8y ago
    IP bans and captchas? This is moving the goalposts. You originally talked about violating Google's ToS.
    - appsonify 8y ago
      not according to Google, it falls under their ToS and is protected by Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. Hey I didn't write the law, take it up with Google attorneys. Who's moving the goal post again? LOL Also peculiar why a seemingly random HN'er would frantically defend questionable practices by OP? Are you an investor or something? a fanboy? It's very strange and raises flags. Just FYI, using alt-nicks to manipulate votes and shilling is against the rules on HN. Please be transparent about your personal stake in this matter, I have my suspicions. edit: seems like you've hit HN's rate limiter given the sudden silence that fell amongst your nicks. My work is done here and I deserve a nice marijuana break now. Knowing I made the world a safer and fairer place today. Feels good man. Take a break from HN, get out and feel the fresh air, it's a beautiful day. edit: all of you are ATTACKING GOOGLE as a CARTEL and thus AUTOMATICALLY EVIL. This is FALLACIOUS THINKING. Google is a NET PLUS for humanity. We get it for free. Beggars can't be choosers, especially beggars that try to exploit and profiteer without doing their own research in internet search engine. How the fuck would you feel if I took your product, slapped my name on it and sold it? This is EXACTLY what OP is doing. There is no grey areas, its a totally BLACK and WHITE issue. Violating trademarks and infringing on intellectual property carries jail sentencing and shit ton of fines. You are encouraging OP to go off on the far end...why? Are you relying on his service? Please clarify.
      - bigiain 8y ago
        What's not so peculiar is that a 5 year old HN account with only 14 karma, and a profile that starts with "Google has made our lives incredibly rich with knowledge and insight into our modern world. Google is the nicest monopoly out there and we should all support American corporations. I promise to defend Google from all attacks." Is quite so insistent that web scraping a company that specialises in web scraping is inevitably such a bad thing... It's quite obvious that at least one side of this discussion is a biased "fanboy" (as you put it)... I guess at least you're transparent about your stake in this matter in your profile...
        appsonify 8y ago
        so you are okay with somebody taking your hard work, slapping their logo and selling it without your knowledge? You are seriously going to sit there and tell me intellectual theft is suddenly not really theft. k. im outta here. edit: @driverdan (since you flagged all my comments to silence me) my company has been acquired and I no longer have direct control, so if you are insinuating that I am trying to squelch the competition, you are spreading libel. I'm not going to sit here and let driverdan, a self professed criminal, spread lies.
        arthurcolle 8y ago
        I think Terry Davis has reincarnated

"Online-reviews firm Yelp Inc. alleged that Google is breaking a promise it made as part of a 2012 regulatory settlement to not scrape content from certain third-party sites including Yelp, escalating its yearslong battle against the search giant." https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-rival-yelp-claims-search-giant-broke-promise-made-to-regulators-1505167498 https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-rival-yelp-claims-search...

appsonify 8y ago
your point being? that has nothing to do with bypassing IP bans and defeating captcha. see 3taps vs craigslist ruling from EFF. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/06/padmapper-and-3taps-settle-suit-craigslist-over-use-real-estate-facts https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/06/padmapper-and-3taps-se...
- TheCowboy 8y ago
  IP bans and captchas? This is moving the goalposts. You originally talked about violating Google's ToS.
  - appsonify 8y ago
    not according to Google, it falls under their ToS and is protected by Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. Hey I didn't write the law, take it up with Google attorneys. Who's moving the goal post again? LOL Also peculiar why a seemingly random HN'er would frantically defend questionable practices by OP? Are you an investor or something? a fanboy? It's very strange and raises flags. Just FYI, using alt-nicks to manipulate votes and shilling is against the rules on HN. Please be transparent about your personal stake in this matter, I have my suspicions. edit: seems like you've hit HN's rate limiter given the sudden silence that fell amongst your nicks. My work is done here and I deserve a nice marijuana break now. Knowing I made the world a safer and fairer place today. Feels good man. Take a break from HN, get out and feel the fresh air, it's a beautiful day. edit: all of you are ATTACKING GOOGLE as a CARTEL and thus AUTOMATICALLY EVIL. This is FALLACIOUS THINKING. Google is a NET PLUS for humanity. We get it for free. Beggars can't be choosers, especially beggars that try to exploit and profiteer without doing their own research in internet search engine. How the fuck would you feel if I took your product, slapped my name on it and sold it? This is EXACTLY what OP is doing. There is no grey areas, its a totally BLACK and WHITE issue. Violating trademarks and infringing on intellectual property carries jail sentencing and shit ton of fines. You are encouraging OP to go off on the far end...why? Are you relying on his service? Please clarify.
    - bigiain 8y ago
      What's not so peculiar is that a 5 year old HN account with only 14 karma, and a profile that starts with "Google has made our lives incredibly rich with knowledge and insight into our modern world. Google is the nicest monopoly out there and we should all support American corporations. I promise to defend Google from all attacks." Is quite so insistent that web scraping a company that specialises in web scraping is inevitably such a bad thing... It's quite obvious that at least one side of this discussion is a biased "fanboy" (as you put it)... I guess at least you're transparent about your stake in this matter in your profile...
      - appsonify 8y ago
        so you are okay with somebody taking your hard work, slapping their logo and selling it without your knowledge? You are seriously going to sit there and tell me intellectual theft is suddenly not really theft. k. im outta here. edit: @driverdan (since you flagged all my comments to silence me) my company has been acquired and I no longer have direct control, so if you are insinuating that I am trying to squelch the competition, you are spreading libel. I'm not going to sit here and let driverdan, a self professed criminal, spread lies.
      - arthurcolle 8y ago
        I think Terry Davis has reincarnated