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> but those issues haven't been fixed in a decade. This is far too broad of a statement to make, hence why you get all the "works on my machine" posts. Your po

by chmln 8y ago

> but those issues haven't been fixed in a decade. This is far too broad of a statement to make, hence why you get all the "works on my machine" posts. Your post is just as anecdotal as others', with no actual numbers or anything to back up the claim. Anecdata - I own a Lenovo y50-70 running arch with an Intel igpu, hidpi display, and Intel wifi. Everything worked flawlessly from day one. Surprisingly, the hidpi display worked far better than on Windows and I could leave behind the telemetry, updates, and poor input latency.

sametmax 8y ago
No I get those comments because linux users are driven by an ideology and wants to defend it. The thing is, even among all those comments authors, I know all of them are only talking at best about "that times where it worked for them". They all lived the problems I'm talking about, and are filtering. Taking arch for example. 3 years ago, I was at a friend's flat. He was using arch because "it just works, never have a problem". And of course, when we set for watching a video, it didn't work. "Codec problem. Just a quick fix he had to do later. Usually it works fine.". I do training all the time. Half of my job is training people, so I see many laptops with many OSs. I always see the same issues. It feels like a recurring joke in a TV show.
- chmln 8y ago
  As I mentioned above, a particular Linux kernel version not supporting your hardware well doesn't mean that other hardware is equally poorly supported. That's the reason you get rebuttals, because your "doesn't work for me" is no more valid than someone else chiming in with "just works for me". > Taking arch for example. 3 years ago, I was at a friend's flat. He was using arch because "it just works, never have a problem". And of course, when we set for watching a video, it didn't work. "Codec problem. Just a quick fix he had to do later. Usually it works fine.". This has nothing to do with Arch. And presumably if that codec issue even happened, if you want everything under the sun installed for you out of the box you should be using something like Mint or Ubuntu. I've had zero codec problems myself, things always just worked with VLC and mpv. > They all lived the problems I'm talking about, and are filtering No one's saying that Linux works perfectly for all hardware. But it's not broken for everyone either as you claim. Besides, I'd much rather spend extra 5 minutes installing tlp and tweaking sysctl for battery life than sit through hours of Windows Update installing candy crush and blocking me from doing work.

by chmln 8y ago

sametmax 8y ago

No I get those comments because linux users are driven by an ideology and wants to defend it. The thing is, even among all those comments authors, I know all of them are only talking at best about "that times where it worked for them". They all lived the problems I'm talking about, and are filtering. Taking arch for example. 3 years ago, I was at a friend's flat. He was using arch because "it just works, never have a problem". And of course, when we set for watching a video, it didn't work. "Codec problem. Just a quick fix he had to do later. Usually it works fine.". I do training all the time. Half of my job is training people, so I see many laptops with many OSs. I always see the same issues. It feels like a recurring joke in a TV show.

chmln 8y ago
As I mentioned above, a particular Linux kernel version not supporting your hardware well doesn't mean that other hardware is equally poorly supported. That's the reason you get rebuttals, because your "doesn't work for me" is no more valid than someone else chiming in with "just works for me". > Taking arch for example. 3 years ago, I was at a friend's flat. He was using arch because "it just works, never have a problem". And of course, when we set for watching a video, it didn't work. "Codec problem. Just a quick fix he had to do later. Usually it works fine.". This has nothing to do with Arch. And presumably if that codec issue even happened, if you want everything under the sun installed for you out of the box you should be using something like Mint or Ubuntu. I've had zero codec problems myself, things always just worked with VLC and mpv. > They all lived the problems I'm talking about, and are filtering No one's saying that Linux works perfectly for all hardware. But it's not broken for everyone either as you claim. Besides, I'd much rather spend extra 5 minutes installing tlp and tweaking sysctl for battery life than sit through hours of Windows Update installing candy crush and blocking me from doing work.