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>I have to say: if Japan wasn’t already the most neurotically clean country I’ve ever been to I wonder if he's been to Singapore though? I felt like Japan was
by SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
>I have to say: if Japan wasn’t already the most neurotically clean country I’ve ever been to
I wonder if he's been to Singapore though? I felt like Japan was very clean, but Singapora was on a whole different level. And not just the "they banned gum" comments, but that I saw at 11:00pm people disappear and the cleaning crews come out pressure washing sidewalks and anywhere people might have been. Tokyo especially felt a LOT like NYC to me, except with much wider alleys, and cleaner. Singapore in contrast didn't feel 'real' at all, like if Disney made a whole country.
Had a long layover in Japan, tried to stay in a Love Hotel as all we needed was 6 hours, but it wasn't $82, more like $120 and turned out we found a cheaper rate at a 'normal' hotel. Next time though!
- nihonde 8y agoJapan is clean from end to end, though. I’ve driven all day across the countryside many times and never seen much more than neatly-stacked supply storage in terms of clutter. Outside of Tokyo and Osaka, the other big cities like Nagoya are clean as a whistle, with every street swept clear every morning and all trash carefully monitored by a cadre of obaasan volunteers. This is the situation in every corner of Japan that I’ve ever seen. It’s truly “bottom-up” clean, which is remarkable and special.
- jpatokal 8y agoSo is Singapore. Then again, Singapore is only about 40 km end to end!
- cthalupa 8y agoThere's plenty of dirty if you go looking in Tokyo. I don't mind it at all, but if you go walking down the alleys near Shibuya or Shinjuku you can find plenty of garbage, etc. I had to dodge some fighting rats trying to get at an overturned garbage can the last time I went to the Mikkeller bar in Tokyo.
- fouc 8y agoI've been to Osaka & Singapore. I would consider Osaka to be much cleaner than Singapore.
- mikeash 8y agoI had to look it up and figured I should share: Singapore is roughly six times larger than Disney World.
- SlowRobotAhead 8y agoSo totally within reason for it to actually be Disney City. Hmm, well, I have my new conspiracy theory.
- mikeash 8y agoI would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
- InTheArena 8y agoI have a suspicion that if Disney hadn’t died, and actually built Epcot as a city, and not just a theme park, it would very much resemble Singapore and Dubai.
- InTheArena 8y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPCOT_(concept) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPCOT_(concept)
- Johnny555 8y agoTo clarify, that's the total land area of Disney World's Florida property, only a small portion is devoted to the theme parks: The Walt Disney World Resort is made up of 47 square miles of land…. or about 30,000 acres. Only about 1100 acres of that land is devoted to the 4 theme parks. In fact, with only 7,100 acres developed, there’s quite a lot of room for expansion! http://www.wdwradio.com/2005/02/wdw-history-101-how-to-buy-27000-acres-of-land-and-no-one-noticeq/ http://www.wdwradio.com/2005/02/wdw-history-101-how-to-buy-2... Another point of comparison: the city of San Francsico has a land area of 47 sq miles, so Singapore is about 6 San Francisco's.
- ubercow13 8y agoSingapore wasn't especially clean when I visited, outside of a few main pedestrian areas
- EliRivers 8y agoOne of our patron saints thought similarly; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyland_with_the_Death_Penalty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyland_with_the_Death_Pena...
- csomar 8y agoThat would be the case only if you focused your walks on the CBD of Singapore. If you wonder a bit, it is not as clean and crisp as the Japanese. Also Singapore is only 5 millions. Compare that to the metro of Tokyo that has close to 40 millions. Japanese are really another breed.
- cryptonector 8y agoTokyo is very smelly on garbage night. Public restrooms in Singapore are not that great. Other than that those two cities are super clean.
- s_y_n_t_a_x 8y agoTokyo is only clean because they clean it every morning. Stay out before the trash gets picked up, it gets insanely trashed, especially on weekends. Probably due to the lack of trash cans.
- tokyodude 8y agoJapan isn't all that clean. Gees I don't know where people get this idea. Walk down Shibuya Center Street the road is disgusting. Plenty of other similar streets in Ikebukuro, Ueno, Roppongi, Kiyamachi, etc... Go in nearly any station, especially the older ones and there are years of dust piled up all over. Some are so bad I'm surprised it's not considered a fire hazard. The most interesting to me are toilets. I'd take a Japan over the USA for public toilets as the Japanese ones are less likely to be destroyed but at the same time it often looks like the staff is afraid to wash them correctly as they have extremely caked on stains. Here's a Starbucks. https://imgur.com/a/sDXuTCb https://imgur.com/a/sDXuTCb The "Japan is clean" meme makes all of these issues really stand out for me. I don't know where these dirty places are that Japan is being compared to but I don't feel like Japan sticks out as clean compared to say Silicon Valley or South Orange Country California or even Santa Monica/Brentwood. They seem about the same.
- Grue3 8y agoAround Shin-Imamiya station in Osaka where I stayed there's literally trash dumped on the streets and homeless people relieving themselves amongst it all. People just don't go anywhere far from the usual tourist spots.
- abdulmuhaimin 8y agoits the people and culture. I think Japan is clean due to the whole culture with regards to cleanliness. So if you see its clean, you know its not just on the surface clean or just hiding it. Singapore might be clean but its mostly due to the municipal/government and management. Once they are out of their country, you know their true nature. Im Malaysian btw, so Im familiar with Singaporeans in Malaysia I still think Singapore is not that clean (better than most country though).