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> What large scale white & Christian discrimination has existed historically, in the US? When were white Christians not allowed to vote or paid less? The Irish

> What large scale white & Christian discrimination has existed historically, in the US? When were white Christians not allowed to vote or paid less? The Irish[1] and Italians[2] have something to say about this. In the past, the US has not been all that kind to non-Protestants in general. In particular, there used to be a strong anti-Catholic sentiment, so much so that it was one of the original "cornerstones" of the KKK. > What's wrong with a conference for women, how exactly is that different than a conference for engineers, or a store for pet owners? I can choose whether or not to be an engineer or a pet owner. I can't choose whether or not to be a man or a woman (gender reassignment surgery notwithstanding). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Italianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Italianism

dahart 8y ago
> The Irish[1] and Italians[2] have something to say about this. Right, those minority groups have been discriminated against. I think I screwed up my point; I was trying to point out that women have also been discriminated against, and that a conference for women doesn't equate to reverse discrimination nor is it remotely equal in magnitude to what women have gone through. The same does go for other historically discriminated groups. > I can choose whether or not to be an engineer or a pet owner. I can't choose whether or not to be a man or a woman That is true, but you can also choose whether to attend a conference without affecting your life, unlike having a job. Being born a male doesn't mean a product designed for women is some kind of discrimination against men, right? Not having a choice still doesn't explain what is wrong with a conference for women. Jobs and conferences aren't the same things; conferences are not paying people and do not directly represent social mobility or opportunity. What specifically is wrong with an event designed for females, and how is it different from a product specifically designed for women (or men, or children, or Irish people...)? There are conferences for men too, notably not being complained about here: http://elitemanconference.com/ http://elitemanconference.com/ https://bettermanconference.com/ https://bettermanconference.com/ http://www.menstuff.org/ http://www.menstuff.org/

dahart 8y ago

> The Irish[1] and Italians[2] have something to say about this. Right, those minority groups have been discriminated against. I think I screwed up my point; I was trying to point out that women have also been discriminated against, and that a conference for women doesn't equate to reverse discrimination nor is it remotely equal in magnitude to what women have gone through. The same does go for other historically discriminated groups. > I can choose whether or not to be an engineer or a pet owner. I can't choose whether or not to be a man or a woman That is true, but you can also choose whether to attend a conference without affecting your life, unlike having a job. Being born a male doesn't mean a product designed for women is some kind of discrimination against men, right? Not having a choice still doesn't explain what is wrong with a conference for women. Jobs and conferences aren't the same things; conferences are not paying people and do not directly represent social mobility or opportunity. What specifically is wrong with an event designed for females, and how is it different from a product specifically designed for women (or men, or children, or Irish people...)? There are conferences for men too, notably not being complained about here: http://elitemanconference.com/ http://elitemanconference.com/ https://bettermanconference.com/ https://bettermanconference.com/ http://www.menstuff.org/ http://www.menstuff.org/