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The weirdest part of all of this is the recurrent problems of Apple products in peoples tech-life-time, and the same people, while annoyed, embrace it... and I

The weirdest part of all of this is the recurrent problems of Apple products in peoples tech-life-time, and the same people, while annoyed, embrace it... and I just don't get it. If products fail on you consistently, why you keep buying them? It's 2019, there's a lot of great products out there, with way more quality than some Apple products. If the problem is the "ecosystem" you bought into, well maybe it was a mistake to begin with because it seems it's not much of a balanced ecosystem - so maybe you should consider jumping out of it. I know I'm biased because I've been a windows user all my life, and I'm not from USA where Apple reigns supreme and people communicate with each other via Apple products/apps... but damn, is it really worth it? Because you're being part of the problem, not part of the solution.

fphhotchips 8y ago
As far as I can tell (I haven't owned Apple kit since an iPod with a spinning disk), OS X is a hell of a drug.
Traster 8y ago
Let's be clear about this: we have no idea how often this issue is occuring. From what we're seeing it could be 0.0001% of Apple Laptops failing within 3 years. This just tends to get a lot of attention. If you buy an Acer laptop it'll probably be 10x more likely to break in 3 years, but no one cares because the Acer brand is crap. This isn't surprising, the likelihood of breakdown is just 1 aspect of choosing to buy a laptop. There might be 'great' products out there, but my experience is that Windows is a total turd and so even if you could find hardware as good as Apple's your still torturing yourself everyday. There's loads of reasons to make the choice and a tiny % chance of your laptop breaking isn't going to completely convince people not to buy.
- libertine 8y ago
  Well in the past years some of Apple products have had serious issues - like engineering flaws that made their products prone to issues. So it's not just this issue. About Acer, you'll have to back it up with something, because you know, Acer has laptops that range from 300€ to 1500€+. But you're right, just because it's Apple these problems have a different reach in media, but on the other hand, Apple doesn't own their problems. And to top it off their practices when it comes to support some of the issues is just ridiculous. To say windows is a total turd makes you look like you're just trying to hurt it's feelings, because you know, and I know, and everyone knows Windows serves it's purpose for plenty of people. Just like Android does. If only the problems were in Apple laptops... the problems is in other product lines, and in the way Apple designs their products. Decisions like pinning down a laptop keyboard with rivets, poor choice of materials, poor thermals, the list goes on. But hey, rejoice on it.
akvadrako 8y ago
Apple's is bad, but the alternatives are not much better. I mean just trying to shop for a laptop on Lenovo or Dell's website is a horrible experience.
- libertine 8y ago
  Hmm but you aren't limited to buy it on manufacturers website, or are there models limit to their websites?

fphhotchips 8y ago

As far as I can tell (I haven't owned Apple kit since an iPod with a spinning disk), OS X is a hell of a drug.

Traster 8y ago

Let's be clear about this: we have no idea how often this issue is occuring. From what we're seeing it could be 0.0001% of Apple Laptops failing within 3 years. This just tends to get a lot of attention. If you buy an Acer laptop it'll probably be 10x more likely to break in 3 years, but no one cares because the Acer brand is crap. This isn't surprising, the likelihood of breakdown is just 1 aspect of choosing to buy a laptop. There might be 'great' products out there, but my experience is that Windows is a total turd and so even if you could find hardware as good as Apple's your still torturing yourself everyday. There's loads of reasons to make the choice and a tiny % chance of your laptop breaking isn't going to completely convince people not to buy.

libertine 8y ago
Well in the past years some of Apple products have had serious issues - like engineering flaws that made their products prone to issues. So it's not just this issue. About Acer, you'll have to back it up with something, because you know, Acer has laptops that range from 300€ to 1500€+. But you're right, just because it's Apple these problems have a different reach in media, but on the other hand, Apple doesn't own their problems. And to top it off their practices when it comes to support some of the issues is just ridiculous. To say windows is a total turd makes you look like you're just trying to hurt it's feelings, because you know, and I know, and everyone knows Windows serves it's purpose for plenty of people. Just like Android does. If only the problems were in Apple laptops... the problems is in other product lines, and in the way Apple designs their products. Decisions like pinning down a laptop keyboard with rivets, poor choice of materials, poor thermals, the list goes on. But hey, rejoice on it.

akvadrako 8y ago

Apple's is bad, but the alternatives are not much better. I mean just trying to shop for a laptop on Lenovo or Dell's website is a horrible experience.

libertine 8y ago
Hmm but you aren't limited to buy it on manufacturers website, or are there models limit to their websites?