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In other words, anyone could build a prosperous society on the back of slaves if they have some natural resources to exploit. It's not even a great feat or acco

by mnm1 8y ago

In other words, anyone could build a prosperous society on the back of slaves if they have some natural resources to exploit. It's not even a great feat or accomplishment. The legacy of that is still what drives a lot of the economy in the US even today.

stcredzero 8y ago
In other words, anyone could build a prosperous society on the back of slaves if they have some natural resources to exploit. But that ceases to be competitive past a certain level of technology and value-add. Even slaves in the American South got paid extra for work requiring exceptional skill and attention to detail. It turns out you can't whip people into producing quality past a very basic level. The legacy of that is still what drives a lot of the economy in the US even today. No. That's a propaganda fiction used by the Far Left to bring down the current order.
- mnm1 8y ago
  Are you saying that black people aren't suffering today due to slavery and Jim Crow? How do you explain that the median white household wealth is sixteen times that of black households? Or is that a leftist conspiracy also? https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2015/03/26/the-racial-wealth-gap-why-a-typical-white-household-has-16-times-the-wealth-of-a-black-one/#513202511f45 https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2015/03/26/the-racial...
  - vixen99 8y ago
    You should check a general reference on slavery across the world (including slavery of Europeans during the late middle ages). There seems to be not a single country whose citizens have not enslaved someone or other at sometime throughout history. I am not as rich as Jeff Bezos or indeed hundreds of thousands of other folk. Now how can you explain that? Answer to your question: yes, a leftist conspiracy. If you really want some explanations for the lower relative wealth of black households, try reading Thomas Sowell. https://tsowell.com/ https://tsowell.com/
    - bsanr 8y ago
      Coincidentally, most countries that have had a historically-disadvantaged population still see large socioeconomic disparities between they and the average, even when the populations concerned are racially homogeneous collectivists with a conservative political bent (looking at you, Japan). Coincidentally, of course. (OR, The phrase "opportunity hoarding" comes to mind.)
  - stcredzero 8y ago
    Are you saying that black people aren't suffering today due to slavery and Jim Crow? No to the first. The causation from slavery doesn't reach the current day. There were tremendous gains in literacy rates and per capita wealth of black people after slavery. Then there were later reversals in literacy rates and rates of out of wedlock births which date to the mid 20th century. https://www.creators.com/read/thomas-sowell/11/14/a-legacy-of-liberalism https://www.creators.com/read/thomas-sowell/11/14/a-legacy-o... "If we wanted to be serious about evidence, we might compare where blacks stood a hundred years after the end of slavery with where they stood after 30 years of the liberal welfare state. In other words, we could compare hard evidence on "the legacy of slavery" with hard evidence on the legacy of liberals." As for Jim Crow, some really bad things happened under that, it's true. Those laws were overturned by the civil rights movement. Incidentally, my family name indicates that my ancestors were also essentially slaves. That form of slavery persisted into the 1800's. No one in my family talks about suffering as a result of that. The notion would just be seen as silly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Korea#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Korea#History

by mnm1 8y ago

stcredzero 8y ago

In other words, anyone could build a prosperous society on the back of slaves if they have some natural resources to exploit. But that ceases to be competitive past a certain level of technology and value-add. Even slaves in the American South got paid extra for work requiring exceptional skill and attention to detail. It turns out you can't whip people into producing quality past a very basic level. The legacy of that is still what drives a lot of the economy in the US even today. No. That's a propaganda fiction used by the Far Left to bring down the current order.

mnm1 8y ago
Are you saying that black people aren't suffering today due to slavery and Jim Crow? How do you explain that the median white household wealth is sixteen times that of black households? Or is that a leftist conspiracy also? https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2015/03/26/the-racial-wealth-gap-why-a-typical-white-household-has-16-times-the-wealth-of-a-black-one/#513202511f45 https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2015/03/26/the-racial...
- vixen99 8y ago
  You should check a general reference on slavery across the world (including slavery of Europeans during the late middle ages). There seems to be not a single country whose citizens have not enslaved someone or other at sometime throughout history. I am not as rich as Jeff Bezos or indeed hundreds of thousands of other folk. Now how can you explain that? Answer to your question: yes, a leftist conspiracy. If you really want some explanations for the lower relative wealth of black households, try reading Thomas Sowell. https://tsowell.com/ https://tsowell.com/
  - bsanr 8y ago
    Coincidentally, most countries that have had a historically-disadvantaged population still see large socioeconomic disparities between they and the average, even when the populations concerned are racially homogeneous collectivists with a conservative political bent (looking at you, Japan). Coincidentally, of course. (OR, The phrase "opportunity hoarding" comes to mind.)
- stcredzero 8y ago
  Are you saying that black people aren't suffering today due to slavery and Jim Crow? No to the first. The causation from slavery doesn't reach the current day. There were tremendous gains in literacy rates and per capita wealth of black people after slavery. Then there were later reversals in literacy rates and rates of out of wedlock births which date to the mid 20th century. https://www.creators.com/read/thomas-sowell/11/14/a-legacy-of-liberalism https://www.creators.com/read/thomas-sowell/11/14/a-legacy-o... "If we wanted to be serious about evidence, we might compare where blacks stood a hundred years after the end of slavery with where they stood after 30 years of the liberal welfare state. In other words, we could compare hard evidence on "the legacy of slavery" with hard evidence on the legacy of liberals." As for Jim Crow, some really bad things happened under that, it's true. Those laws were overturned by the civil rights movement. Incidentally, my family name indicates that my ancestors were also essentially slaves. That form of slavery persisted into the 1800's. No one in my family talks about suffering as a result of that. The notion would just be seen as silly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Korea#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Korea#History