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I've lived in Melbourne and Sydney, and Sydney is a pretty excellent place to work and live on an Atlassian salary, I'm not sure it's the city where I'd be focu
by thundergolfer 8y ago
I've lived in Melbourne and Sydney, and Sydney is a pretty excellent place to work and live on an Atlassian salary, I'm not sure it's the city where I'd be focusing improvements.
Sydney compensation could use a bump in compensation to justify moving from places like Melbourne and Brisbane. In my limited experience they sometimes don't pay enough to cover the increased cost of living, particularly rent.
Otherwise I'd agree with Scott that Australia needs overseas talent. At Canva, where I work, the strong majority hired are overseas talent. Australia's software industry is too small for these companies' appetites, and its universities aren't producing a large enough supply of talented grads.
- voltagex_ 8y agoI'd argue both Canva and Atlassian need to look at remote work (at least within Australia) as well. I don't want to live in Sydney.
- lazyasciiart 8y agoOn the other hand Atlassian (and everyone else) doesn't pay enough to stop a lot of those local talented grads moving straight to the US.
- BFLpL0QNek 8y agoI’d describe Atlassian’s Sydney pay as fair if you enjoy working there but on the lower to mid end of the market so you wouldn’t join on a purely financial decision. They have also stated they’ll never attempt to be one of the big payers. Australia’s problem, in general the Australian born devs are very good, Computer Science must be done right here (i’m not Australian). However the quantity of good interesting software jobs isn’t great compared to other countries, when you have easy migration to the US as an AU citizen, and jobs offering more money and more work opportunities it’s hard to overlook. Maybe catch 22, for good devs to stay you need good interesting jobs, for jobs you need devs.