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Undetectable also means non transmissible.

toomuchtodo 8y ago
Bold claim. How recent are HPV tests? Edit: While my comment came from caution due to historical human hubris, it appears I am wrong: “According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), a person with an undetectable viral load has “effectively no risk” of sexually transmitting HIV. In 2016, the Prevention Access Campaign launched the U=U, or Undetectable = Untransmittable, campaign.”
- pryce 8y ago
  That claim isn't a bold assessment of the medical literature at all, it's actually widely held to by the medical organizations responsible for HIV treatment and prevention. Here [1] is for instance an article referencing this claim, describing it as "based on strong scientific evidence" that was peer reviewed published by the journal of the American Medical Association. (EDIT: it's important to add the caveat, which is that this claim is about sexual transmission only, and does not cover pregnant-mother-to-child transmission or intravenous needle sharing). Also your comment now refers to "HPV" which is the name of a different disease. [1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2720997 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/27209...
  - toomuchtodo 8y ago
    I refer to HPV as a case study in humans not having tests available for a communicable disease (no HPV test exists for men) and underestimating it’s communicability (not to mention it’s role in causing several types of cancer). Apologies if you thought I was confusing HPV and HIV. Too often we think we’re smarter than we are, and the consequences can be damning. Hence why I said its a bold claim that undetectable means it can’t be transmitted. Are we absolutely sure? Because if we’re not, someone could acquire a life long chronic disease that would otherwise have been preventable. But the CDC says undetectable says no transmission; I hope they’re right in 100% of transmission scenarios.
- woofyman 8y ago
  It’s the CDCs claim. https://www.healthline.com/health/hiv-aids/undetectable-viral-load-transmission-risk https://www.healthline.com/health/hiv-aids/undetectable-vira...
fastball 8y ago
Being on HAART does not guarantee an undetectable viral load.

Bold claim. How recent are HPV tests? Edit: While my comment came from caution due to historical human hubris, it appears I am wrong: “According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), a person with an undetectable viral load has “effectively no risk” of sexually transmitting HIV. In 2016, the Prevention Access Campaign launched the U=U, or Undetectable = Untransmittable, campaign.”

pryce 8y ago
That claim isn't a bold assessment of the medical literature at all, it's actually widely held to by the medical organizations responsible for HIV treatment and prevention. Here [1] is for instance an article referencing this claim, describing it as "based on strong scientific evidence" that was peer reviewed published by the journal of the American Medical Association. (EDIT: it's important to add the caveat, which is that this claim is about sexual transmission only, and does not cover pregnant-mother-to-child transmission or intravenous needle sharing). Also your comment now refers to "HPV" which is the name of a different disease. [1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2720997 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/27209...
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  I refer to HPV as a case study in humans not having tests available for a communicable disease (no HPV test exists for men) and underestimating it’s communicability (not to mention it’s role in causing several types of cancer). Apologies if you thought I was confusing HPV and HIV. Too often we think we’re smarter than we are, and the consequences can be damning. Hence why I said its a bold claim that undetectable means it can’t be transmitted. Are we absolutely sure? Because if we’re not, someone could acquire a life long chronic disease that would otherwise have been preventable. But the CDC says undetectable says no transmission; I hope they’re right in 100% of transmission scenarios.
woofyman 8y ago
It’s the CDCs claim. https://www.healthline.com/health/hiv-aids/undetectable-viral-load-transmission-risk https://www.healthline.com/health/hiv-aids/undetectable-vira...

fastball 8y ago

Being on HAART does not guarantee an undetectable viral load.