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Howard Roark: In Praise of the Self Speech from the Fountainhead (1943)

5 points by tzhenghao 8y ago

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fegu 8y ago
Much can be said of Ayn Rand and her books. That aside, I find the money speech of Atlas Shrugged [1] far better at conveying the point than the self speech of The Fountainhead. 1: https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2002/08/franciscos-money-speech/ https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2002/08/franciscos-money-...
- xiphias2 8y ago
  What's really interesting for me in Atlas Shrugged is the way people are going back to sound money by leaving the hyperinflationary fiat system. When I read the book, I thought that gold is just some symbol/metaphor, but not something important. Since then I learned more about the way money works and realized that it wasn't a metaphor at all, and I'm seeing how history repeats itself, and people haven't learned from the mistakes that were made 80 years ago.
hirundo 8y ago
> Thousands of years ago, the first man discovered how to make fire. He was probably burned at the stake he had taught his brothers to light. He was considered an evildoer who had dealt with a demon mankind dreaded. Hate or love her, Rand had a powerful way with words. You can admit that and still thinks she was the evildoer. By her influence she was one of the greatest expository writers of her generation. She brilliantly wrapped treatises on economics and philosophy in sugar pills of fiction. For good or ill, Howard Roark is among the great literary characters of the twentieth century.
- russellbeattie 8y ago
  Nah. Her exposition is mediocre at best. What she did was simply give her readers a rationale for their innate selfishness and lack of empathy, wrapped in flowery platitudes. Those that are naturally self-centered read her work and the underlying message of radical egocentrism speaks to them. But since it's such an abhorrent message, they justify their attraction to it by claiming Rand was a compelling writer. She really wasn't. What I guess you can say is that being a hypocrite and narcissist herself, Rand knew her audience quite well and wrote accordingly. There's a lot that can be learned from that.
ykevinator 8y ago
That book was great until Howard roark broke his quiet dignity to brag in a speech. It amazes me how bad the ending of this book is.

5 points by tzhenghao 8y ago

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fegu 8y ago

Much can be said of Ayn Rand and her books. That aside, I find the money speech of Atlas Shrugged [1] far better at conveying the point than the self speech of The Fountainhead. 1: https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2002/08/franciscos-money-speech/ https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2002/08/franciscos-money-...

xiphias2 8y ago
What's really interesting for me in Atlas Shrugged is the way people are going back to sound money by leaving the hyperinflationary fiat system. When I read the book, I thought that gold is just some symbol/metaphor, but not something important. Since then I learned more about the way money works and realized that it wasn't a metaphor at all, and I'm seeing how history repeats itself, and people haven't learned from the mistakes that were made 80 years ago.

hirundo 8y ago

> Thousands of years ago, the first man discovered how to make fire. He was probably burned at the stake he had taught his brothers to light. He was considered an evildoer who had dealt with a demon mankind dreaded. Hate or love her, Rand had a powerful way with words. You can admit that and still thinks she was the evildoer. By her influence she was one of the greatest expository writers of her generation. She brilliantly wrapped treatises on economics and philosophy in sugar pills of fiction. For good or ill, Howard Roark is among the great literary characters of the twentieth century.

russellbeattie 8y ago
Nah. Her exposition is mediocre at best. What she did was simply give her readers a rationale for their innate selfishness and lack of empathy, wrapped in flowery platitudes. Those that are naturally self-centered read her work and the underlying message of radical egocentrism speaks to them. But since it's such an abhorrent message, they justify their attraction to it by claiming Rand was a compelling writer. She really wasn't. What I guess you can say is that being a hypocrite and narcissist herself, Rand knew her audience quite well and wrote accordingly. There's a lot that can be learned from that.

ykevinator 8y ago

That book was great until Howard roark broke his quiet dignity to brag in a speech. It amazes me how bad the ending of this book is.