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The only reason to go fast is for thrills. Going fast is dangerous to other people, hence: fuck you, go slower. I don't care what situation you pull from your a

The only reason to go fast is for thrills. Going fast is dangerous to other people, hence: fuck you, go slower. I don't care what situation you pull from your ass to give a counterexample, 99.99% of people driving over the speed limit by more than 10-20 are driving dangerously.

tristor 8y ago
In vein of your reply, I'll simply say "Stay out of the left lane." The VAST majority of collisions I've seen which involved a driver exceeding the speed limit were caused by people erratically impeding traffic by cutting them off in the left lane. When I say "I've seen", I mean "I've personally witnessed". It happens constantly in traffic here, and it's usually someone doing 50 in a 70 cutting into the left lane in front of someone doing 80, without bothering to look. You'd blame the "aggressive" driver doing 80, when it fact this is 99% the fault of the slower driver. I see slow drivers in the left lane CONSTANTLY, and it irritates me both as someone who drives faster, and someone who understands basic principles of driving and statistics. If you want to drive slow, fine, go for it, but do it in the right-hand lane. The amount of traffic collisions and fatalities from speed would be drastically reduced if people in the US just drove like decent people. We have a much higher rate of fatalities than even on the Autobahn, because of people impeding the flow of traffic and generally failing to signal intent before making erratic movements much too slow.
- chris_mc 8y ago
  Your entire post here was blaming the drivers going the speed limit by using anecdotal evidence and claiming that speeders are not the dangerous ones. In other words: complete bullshit.
- j79 8y ago
  About a year ago, I was driving in the far right lane going 80MPH at 2AM in the morning. Wife and baby child were sleeping in the car. In my rear view, I see a car flying up. He was in an express lane. No clue why, but as he catches up, he cuts over the solid white line separating the express lane, then the far left lane, and finally passes me in the middle lane. This idiot was going about 130-140MPH. I was absolutely livid and the only thing that stopped me from chasing him down was my wife and son. So stop with this b.s. I'd much rather drive on a road with someone drive slower than an asshole who thinks everyone is going to slow. People weaving through traffic, going 80, 90, 100MPH while everyone else is doing 65, are FAR more dangerous, than the elderly driver doing 60 in the far left.
- Johnny555 8y ago
  I'd add to that -- always expect to be cut off in the left lane. If you expect other drivers to drive safely, you'll eventually pay the price. USA drivers and the whole are under trained and overly distracted. I saw a near collision this weekend when someone in a BMW was driving significantly faster than traffic, and a pickup driver not paying attention ran out of road when the right-lane ended, so he cut off an 18 wheeler in the middle lane. The ~55mph 18 wheeler immediately moved into the left lane... He apparently didn't see or didn't care about the ~85mph BMW and cut him off, so the BMW ended up slamming on the brakes to avoid rear-ending the truck, I could smell the burning rubber from his tires when I caught up to them. The whole thing could have been avoided if the BMW driver had a little more situational awareness - I saw the pickup's lane was ending while he was alongside the 18 wheeler and was already slowing down since I was afraid it wouldn't end well.
DKnoll 8y ago
> Going fast is dangerous to other people Depends on where you are. If you're on private property or a track (lots of them open to the public), you're only a danger to yourself. OP didn't say he was on a public roadway when he hit the limiter.
- chris_mc 8y ago
  >I don't care what situation you pull from your ass to give a counterexample Very few people are in that position and I don't give a crap about their "needs" on the track.
  - DKnoll 8y ago
    I'm not pulling it from my ass. There are a lot of people who take their cars out on the track, I know quite a few that have. Just because it happens outside your bubble doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You're being unnecessarily rude and confrontational, which isn't justified despite you thinking you have the moral high ground.
    - chris_mc 8y ago
      >a lot of people Yes, maybe 0.01% of all people. I also used to do autocross, so I know people enjoy track racing, I just don't care because it's a waste of resources, bad for the environment, and not a good reason to get rid of speed limiters that would save lives. >You're being unnecessarily rude and confrontational I don't have to be polite to people who risk lives unnecessarily. You think you have the moral high ground with "freedumb for all" but in actuality, I do because I'm trying to protect lives with very little impact to things that matter (racing doesn't matter).
      - DKnoll 8y ago
        I never said I oppose limiters in cars. I have one in my vehicle I have not removed. > I'm trying to protect lives with very little impact to things that matter I don't see what you're doing to protect lives by commenting on HN. Stop throwing around that 0.01% stat you made up. More than 1 in every 10,000 people take their car to a track day at least once in their lifetime.
driverdan 8y ago
> The only reason to go fast is for thrills. Or, you know, to get where you're going faster. Driving faster adds up over long distances.

tristor 8y ago

In vein of your reply, I'll simply say "Stay out of the left lane." The VAST majority of collisions I've seen which involved a driver exceeding the speed limit were caused by people erratically impeding traffic by cutting them off in the left lane. When I say "I've seen", I mean "I've personally witnessed". It happens constantly in traffic here, and it's usually someone doing 50 in a 70 cutting into the left lane in front of someone doing 80, without bothering to look. You'd blame the "aggressive" driver doing 80, when it fact this is 99% the fault of the slower driver. I see slow drivers in the left lane CONSTANTLY, and it irritates me both as someone who drives faster, and someone who understands basic principles of driving and statistics. If you want to drive slow, fine, go for it, but do it in the right-hand lane. The amount of traffic collisions and fatalities from speed would be drastically reduced if people in the US just drove like decent people. We have a much higher rate of fatalities than even on the Autobahn, because of people impeding the flow of traffic and generally failing to signal intent before making erratic movements much too slow.

chris_mc 8y ago
Your entire post here was blaming the drivers going the speed limit by using anecdotal evidence and claiming that speeders are not the dangerous ones. In other words: complete bullshit.
j79 8y ago
About a year ago, I was driving in the far right lane going 80MPH at 2AM in the morning. Wife and baby child were sleeping in the car. In my rear view, I see a car flying up. He was in an express lane. No clue why, but as he catches up, he cuts over the solid white line separating the express lane, then the far left lane, and finally passes me in the middle lane. This idiot was going about 130-140MPH. I was absolutely livid and the only thing that stopped me from chasing him down was my wife and son. So stop with this b.s. I'd much rather drive on a road with someone drive slower than an asshole who thinks everyone is going to slow. People weaving through traffic, going 80, 90, 100MPH while everyone else is doing 65, are FAR more dangerous, than the elderly driver doing 60 in the far left.
Johnny555 8y ago
I'd add to that -- always expect to be cut off in the left lane. If you expect other drivers to drive safely, you'll eventually pay the price. USA drivers and the whole are under trained and overly distracted. I saw a near collision this weekend when someone in a BMW was driving significantly faster than traffic, and a pickup driver not paying attention ran out of road when the right-lane ended, so he cut off an 18 wheeler in the middle lane. The ~55mph 18 wheeler immediately moved into the left lane... He apparently didn't see or didn't care about the ~85mph BMW and cut him off, so the BMW ended up slamming on the brakes to avoid rear-ending the truck, I could smell the burning rubber from his tires when I caught up to them. The whole thing could have been avoided if the BMW driver had a little more situational awareness - I saw the pickup's lane was ending while he was alongside the 18 wheeler and was already slowing down since I was afraid it wouldn't end well.

DKnoll 8y ago

> Going fast is dangerous to other people Depends on where you are. If you're on private property or a track (lots of them open to the public), you're only a danger to yourself. OP didn't say he was on a public roadway when he hit the limiter.

chris_mc 8y ago
>I don't care what situation you pull from your ass to give a counterexample Very few people are in that position and I don't give a crap about their "needs" on the track.
- DKnoll 8y ago
  I'm not pulling it from my ass. There are a lot of people who take their cars out on the track, I know quite a few that have. Just because it happens outside your bubble doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You're being unnecessarily rude and confrontational, which isn't justified despite you thinking you have the moral high ground.
  - chris_mc 8y ago
    >a lot of people Yes, maybe 0.01% of all people. I also used to do autocross, so I know people enjoy track racing, I just don't care because it's a waste of resources, bad for the environment, and not a good reason to get rid of speed limiters that would save lives. >You're being unnecessarily rude and confrontational I don't have to be polite to people who risk lives unnecessarily. You think you have the moral high ground with "freedumb for all" but in actuality, I do because I'm trying to protect lives with very little impact to things that matter (racing doesn't matter).
    - DKnoll 8y ago
      I never said I oppose limiters in cars. I have one in my vehicle I have not removed. > I'm trying to protect lives with very little impact to things that matter I don't see what you're doing to protect lives by commenting on HN. Stop throwing around that 0.01% stat you made up. More than 1 in every 10,000 people take their car to a track day at least once in their lifetime.

driverdan 8y ago

> The only reason to go fast is for thrills. Or, you know, to get where you're going faster. Driving faster adds up over long distances.