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So you're upset that you have to actually pay the high taxes you voted for, and because of that, you want to move to a low-tax state to vote for the same polici

by jayess 8y ago

So you're upset that you have to actually pay the high taxes you voted for, and because of that, you want to move to a low-tax state to vote for the same policies, because you're bitter about having to pay the taxes you voted for? F that. Stay in your high-tax state and deal with the consequences of your own decisions.

myrandomcomment 8y ago
I have paid millions in taxes over the years and I have no issue doing so. What I take issue is that this change in the tax code was only done as a punishment by those in power against those with a different set of political belief. That is the fundamental issue here. We are bring our country down with this system of politics that has become so toxic that you do not see the person you disagree with politicly as anything more than someone to be crushed. (The venom of your comment is an example). The founding fathers (one of which I am a direct descendant of) very much believed in civil discourse and using the right people for the right job. Washington appointed people he very much disliked because they were the expert the job needed, outside of his personal or political views. Up until the time of Newt Gingrich who is somewhat responsible for this current environment, our representatives in general understood the art of the compromise. Personally I tend to be a libertarian and want the government out of most things. However I do except that fact that some form of taxes are a necessary thing in for any country to exist. I would like to see them line up in a more fair way, flat taxes on all income over a given amount, VAT for non-food, non-essential items, etc. Most of the way we tax is broken. A prime example in CA is property taxes. When my family and I moved last, our search for a home was limited to 5 parts of the Bay Area because of schools. If you want your kid to go to a great school, buy in a rich area as the schools are funded by property taxes. Seems to me it would be better to share that money equally across the state. It would help uplift everyone. Edit: spelling
- masonic 8y ago
  this change in the tax code was only done as a punishment by those in power Well, the original structure with SALT being deductible was put in place by the other party in the first place and stayed that way for a century. And even the newly changed limit to $10K retains the benefit for the vast majority.
- jeffbax 8y ago
  The tax code is broken, but it's not due to reducing the distortions that have broken it. SALT, mortgage interest etc should all go away. They're subsidies to the wealthiest. The tax law was good for bringing the corporate tax back to competitive global levels, good for doing what it can to fix distortions, and bad for lowering the top income bracket in an age of $22T debt (though you'd probably be surprised at the amount of high tax EU welfare countries that use a flat tax, and better tax luxury which should be the real goal, not income in the first place) Maybe if enough blue state workers (of which I am one) start to feel the implications of their voting records, we can start to have the overdue conversation on how and what we spend on. * also speaking from a generally libertarian angle

by jayess 8y ago

myrandomcomment 8y ago

I have paid millions in taxes over the years and I have no issue doing so. What I take issue is that this change in the tax code was only done as a punishment by those in power against those with a different set of political belief. That is the fundamental issue here. We are bring our country down with this system of politics that has become so toxic that you do not see the person you disagree with politicly as anything more than someone to be crushed. (The venom of your comment is an example). The founding fathers (one of which I am a direct descendant of) very much believed in civil discourse and using the right people for the right job. Washington appointed people he very much disliked because they were the expert the job needed, outside of his personal or political views. Up until the time of Newt Gingrich who is somewhat responsible for this current environment, our representatives in general understood the art of the compromise. Personally I tend to be a libertarian and want the government out of most things. However I do except that fact that some form of taxes are a necessary thing in for any country to exist. I would like to see them line up in a more fair way, flat taxes on all income over a given amount, VAT for non-food, non-essential items, etc. Most of the way we tax is broken. A prime example in CA is property taxes. When my family and I moved last, our search for a home was limited to 5 parts of the Bay Area because of schools. If you want your kid to go to a great school, buy in a rich area as the schools are funded by property taxes. Seems to me it would be better to share that money equally across the state. It would help uplift everyone. Edit: spelling

masonic 8y ago
this change in the tax code was only done as a punishment by those in power Well, the original structure with SALT being deductible was put in place by the other party in the first place and stayed that way for a century. And even the newly changed limit to $10K retains the benefit for the vast majority.
jeffbax 8y ago
The tax code is broken, but it's not due to reducing the distortions that have broken it. SALT, mortgage interest etc should all go away. They're subsidies to the wealthiest. The tax law was good for bringing the corporate tax back to competitive global levels, good for doing what it can to fix distortions, and bad for lowering the top income bracket in an age of $22T debt (though you'd probably be surprised at the amount of high tax EU welfare countries that use a flat tax, and better tax luxury which should be the real goal, not income in the first place) Maybe if enough blue state workers (of which I am one) start to feel the implications of their voting records, we can start to have the overdue conversation on how and what we spend on. * also speaking from a generally libertarian angle