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Seems like most articles written on this subject assume young people come from "well-off enough" families that can support them, even if they themselves are bro

by tyler- 8y ago

Seems like most articles written on this subject assume young people come from "well-off enough" families that can support them, even if they themselves are broke. It seems like "my family can support me" is universally accepted as truth for such people in those situations. Are there any articles or studies done on young people from working-class families or families that aren't affluent enough to support them?

dvtrn 8y ago
So it doesn't quite take the same theme of parental-financial support as the parent article to this comment thread does, but: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/05/african-americans-with-college-degrees-are-twice-as-likely-to-be-unemployed-as-other-graduates/430971/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/05/african... I do sometimes point to this article as something of note, that resonates with me as a member of that particular social group. Of course with many things, YMMV as to how much of this also happens to relate to you and whatever social group you happen to be a member of--since there are valid parallels across the socio-economic fabric. That link can also be found in this article, which resonated pretty well with me for similar reasons. https://newrepublic.com/article/153122/missing-black-millennial https://newrepublic.com/article/153122/missing-black-millenn... Same caveat here: article doesn't necessarily go into the aspects of how Black millennial fare with parental-financial assistance, but I'm definitely keeping an eye out for such an article. Maybe I should write an anecdote laden response to the NYT piece here, and publish it on medium (mild sarcasm in use here).
jamestimmins 8y ago
I'd imagine that having those opportunities and privileges helps folks get in a position where they can write these articles and get wide readership. So there's likely a self-selection bias.
hopler 8y ago
You're right. As an upper middle class East coast American can attest, these NYT thinkpieces are written by young rich parent-supported kids living in New York City, who write their articles by asking their FB friends for quotes. Not many NYT writers live in Buffalo.
CM30 8y ago
Rich kids are very overrepresented in journalism. Perhaps because the wages are so bad for much of it that anyone without a decent support system/trust fund can't afford to live in a place like New York City or London on a journalist's salary. There's been a fair bit written about this: https://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2018/apr/29/journalism-class-private-education https://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2018/apr/29/jou... https://www.theguardian.com/media/2008/apr/07/pressandpublishing4 https://www.theguardian.com/media/2008/apr/07/pressandpublis... https://mumbrella.com.au/journalism-is-becoming-a-profession-for-only-the-rich-so-why-wont-anyone-talk-about-it-535796 https://mumbrella.com.au/journalism-is-becoming-a-profession... https://www.cjr.org/special_report/journalism-class.php/ https://www.cjr.org/special_report/journalism-class.php/
esotericn 8y ago
This is a pet peeve of mine because the 'millennial' label seems to be modelled on what are (at least currently) working class children of upper middle class parents. The entire trope is 'well off kid ends up working in coffee shop whilst subsidised by mum and will never buy a home'. It's a strange microcosm. People like me that have solidly working class backgrounds yet haven't been abject failures just completely disappear in this worldview. I guess that's just identity politics. At this point, trying to engage meaningfully seems like a waste of time to me.

by tyler- 8y ago

dvtrn 8y ago

So it doesn't quite take the same theme of parental-financial support as the parent article to this comment thread does, but: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/05/african-americans-with-college-degrees-are-twice-as-likely-to-be-unemployed-as-other-graduates/430971/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/05/african... I do sometimes point to this article as something of note, that resonates with me as a member of that particular social group. Of course with many things, YMMV as to how much of this also happens to relate to you and whatever social group you happen to be a member of--since there are valid parallels across the socio-economic fabric. That link can also be found in this article, which resonated pretty well with me for similar reasons. https://newrepublic.com/article/153122/missing-black-millennial https://newrepublic.com/article/153122/missing-black-millenn... Same caveat here: article doesn't necessarily go into the aspects of how Black millennial fare with parental-financial assistance, but I'm definitely keeping an eye out for such an article. Maybe I should write an anecdote laden response to the NYT piece here, and publish it on medium (mild sarcasm in use here).

jamestimmins 8y ago

I'd imagine that having those opportunities and privileges helps folks get in a position where they can write these articles and get wide readership. So there's likely a self-selection bias.

hopler 8y ago

You're right. As an upper middle class East coast American can attest, these NYT thinkpieces are written by young rich parent-supported kids living in New York City, who write their articles by asking their FB friends for quotes. Not many NYT writers live in Buffalo.

CM30 8y ago

Rich kids are very overrepresented in journalism. Perhaps because the wages are so bad for much of it that anyone without a decent support system/trust fund can't afford to live in a place like New York City or London on a journalist's salary. There's been a fair bit written about this: https://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2018/apr/29/journalism-class-private-education https://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2018/apr/29/jou... https://www.theguardian.com/media/2008/apr/07/pressandpublishing4 https://www.theguardian.com/media/2008/apr/07/pressandpublis... https://mumbrella.com.au/journalism-is-becoming-a-profession-for-only-the-rich-so-why-wont-anyone-talk-about-it-535796 https://mumbrella.com.au/journalism-is-becoming-a-profession... https://www.cjr.org/special_report/journalism-class.php/ https://www.cjr.org/special_report/journalism-class.php/

esotericn 8y ago

This is a pet peeve of mine because the 'millennial' label seems to be modelled on what are (at least currently) working class children of upper middle class parents. The entire trope is 'well off kid ends up working in coffee shop whilst subsidised by mum and will never buy a home'. It's a strange microcosm. People like me that have solidly working class backgrounds yet haven't been abject failures just completely disappear in this worldview. I guess that's just identity politics. At this point, trying to engage meaningfully seems like a waste of time to me.