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This isn’t Tesla’s fault. It’s the owners’ fault. When you purchase a Tesla you are making an extremely risky decision to purchase a vehicle coming from a brand

This isn’t Tesla’s fault. It’s the owners’ fault. When you purchase a Tesla you are making an extremely risky decision to purchase a vehicle coming from a brand new car company. The vehicle lifetime, maintenance, price, and service quality is all an experiment right now. Call me boring but I’ll be sticking with my Toyota for a bit longer.

tomp 8y ago
What does "new car company" and "vehicle lifetime, maintenance, service quality" have to do with price? Btw, this isn't just Tesla, it's Elon Musk. SpaceX also lowered their prices, and forced all other competitors (old companies) to lower theirs as well!
- almost_usual 8y ago
  >What does "new car company" and "vehicle lifetime, maintenance, service quality" have to do with price? What? What doesn’t it have to do with price? Why would anyone pay for a vehicle that had poor ratings for all of those things?
  - tomp 8y ago
    I misspoke ("miswrote"?). I meant, what does it have to do with a price drop.
    - almost_usual 8y ago
      It's all in the same domain as a new car company doing 'new' things. Tesla is experimenting with every facet of its company process. Sales, maintenance, production, etc. If I were an owner I wouldn't expect anything to stay the same except the company's goals.
jfoster 8y ago
Can you explain what you mean about it being "extremely risky?" What's the worst that could happen, and how likely is that, even?
- rootusrootus 8y ago
  It could turn out to be very unreliable and Tesla could go bankrupt well before the warranty expires.
- michaelt 8y ago
  Hypothetically? Maybe you'll buy partly on the promise of features that haven't yet been delivered, and they either won't be delivered or won't be as good as you expected when they are. It might have fit-and-finish problems like cars used to in the 1980s, like a leaking sunroof. Perhaps quality standards will vary as production ramps up, so reports by journalists and early adopters will prove inaccurate. You might need customer service, and find it barely exists, Google-style. You might find Tesla's own mechanics can't get the parts to do repairs, because of supply chain problems. Maybe you read positive reports, but they were written by Tesla fans biased by their enthusiasm for the brand, or journalists biased by their access to free press cars. Perhaps you'll need a replacement part after owning the car several years, and you'll find replacement parts are no longer available. Maybe there will be some subtle software bug that will inconvenience you, but with trigger conditions rare enough Tesla will never prioritise finding and fixing the cause. Perhaps there will be some expensive part that wears out after X, when competing cars usually last for 2X. As you'll appreciate, quantifying the chance of such problems is difficult.

tomp 8y ago

What does "new car company" and "vehicle lifetime, maintenance, service quality" have to do with price? Btw, this isn't just Tesla, it's Elon Musk. SpaceX also lowered their prices, and forced all other competitors (old companies) to lower theirs as well!

almost_usual 8y ago
>What does "new car company" and "vehicle lifetime, maintenance, service quality" have to do with price? What? What doesn’t it have to do with price? Why would anyone pay for a vehicle that had poor ratings for all of those things?
- tomp 8y ago
  I misspoke ("miswrote"?). I meant, what does it have to do with a price drop.
  - almost_usual 8y ago
    It's all in the same domain as a new car company doing 'new' things. Tesla is experimenting with every facet of its company process. Sales, maintenance, production, etc. If I were an owner I wouldn't expect anything to stay the same except the company's goals.

jfoster 8y ago

Can you explain what you mean about it being "extremely risky?" What's the worst that could happen, and how likely is that, even?

rootusrootus 8y ago
It could turn out to be very unreliable and Tesla could go bankrupt well before the warranty expires.
michaelt 8y ago
Hypothetically? Maybe you'll buy partly on the promise of features that haven't yet been delivered, and they either won't be delivered or won't be as good as you expected when they are. It might have fit-and-finish problems like cars used to in the 1980s, like a leaking sunroof. Perhaps quality standards will vary as production ramps up, so reports by journalists and early adopters will prove inaccurate. You might need customer service, and find it barely exists, Google-style. You might find Tesla's own mechanics can't get the parts to do repairs, because of supply chain problems. Maybe you read positive reports, but they were written by Tesla fans biased by their enthusiasm for the brand, or journalists biased by their access to free press cars. Perhaps you'll need a replacement part after owning the car several years, and you'll find replacement parts are no longer available. Maybe there will be some subtle software bug that will inconvenience you, but with trigger conditions rare enough Tesla will never prioritise finding and fixing the cause. Perhaps there will be some expensive part that wears out after X, when competing cars usually last for 2X. As you'll appreciate, quantifying the chance of such problems is difficult.