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https://degooglisons-internet.org/img/Peha-Banquet-CC-By-1920.jpg https://degooglisons-internet.org/img/Peha-Banquet-CC-By-192... This is not what I want the I

by diszd 8y ago

https://degooglisons-internet.org/img/Peha-Banquet-CC-By-1920.jpg https://degooglisons-internet.org/img/Peha-Banquet-CC-By-192... This is not what I want the Internet to be.

quickthrower2 8y ago
That graphic is unfortunate
- tpush 8y ago
  How so?
- jcelerier 8y ago
  it is a reference to Asterix, a very famous strip comic (https://fredericbaylot.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/13asterix-et-le-chaudron.jpg?w=1140 https://fredericbaylot.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/13asterix...) ; it symbolizes resistance (and ultimately victory) against something that seems much bigger and stronger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix)
  - diszd 8y ago
    Only that in that strip comic, the round table is not full of mongrels.
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mkettn 8y ago
At least Google and Apple are big contributors to open source software (e.g. Chromium, CUPS). Instead of roasting big companies (because... privacy?) we should work together. This picture does more harm, because it view companies purely as enemies.
- saagarjha 8y ago
  > At least Google and Apple are big contributors to open source software (e.g. Chromium, CUPS). …that's a strange choice. Basically every company in that comic contributes in some way to open source.
  - kome 8y ago
    Contributing to open source is not contributing to free software, the big 5 are indeed all doing quite the opposite: creating walled gardens, trying to monopolize the distribution of software and goods, and pushing for a web monoculture. Also, they are making the web a more centralist and frankly, boring, place.
    - pmoriarty 8y ago
      "creating walled gardens, trying to monopolize the distribution of software and goods, and pushing for a web monoculture" ...and spying on users.
    - saagarjha 8y ago
      That's why I said "open source" and not "free software". Those companies do contribute a bit to "free software", but really only in token amounts.
- Phenix88be 8y ago
  Open source is NOT free software. You are not free because you are using Chromium instead of Chrome. Free software is a philosophy, Open source just mean every one can read the source. You can contribute to Open Source and be evil...
  - icebraining 8y ago
    Chromium is free software, just like the vast majority of open source. The philosophies are certainly different, but the code produced by one generally fits the other definition as well. MIT, BSD, Apache, WTFPL, etc - all of these licenses fit both the open source and free software definitions.
markvdb 8y ago
The image seems to be an allusion to the theme behind the Asterix comic strip, of a small and happily independent Gaul village surrounded by a giant Roman empire unable to conquer it. It's _hard_ to capture a very abstract ideal like free-as-in-freedom web services in one image. To me, a successful image should be about celebrating freedom and independence. The Asterix comic strip succeeds at that, this image not so much. Just like the inhabitants of the mythical Gaul village, I'm ok interacting with the Romans and their empire as long as they don't keep me from doing my thing, in the way I want. The framasoft offerings are really interesting by the way. Do check them out if you haven't yet!
kome 8y ago
omg that's exactly the internet i want :)
AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
Notably not seated at the table: users.
- angieg 8y ago
  all people sitted at the table are users !
eitland 8y ago
Oh come on. Let us have some fun, here is one of my favourites, "bliss kaboom!" which shows tux with a rocket launcher: https://hdwallpapers.cat/bliss-kaboom-tux-rocket-launcher-anti-linux-Aeqq https://hdwallpapers.cat/bliss-kaboom-tux-rocket-launcher-an... (although I admit I've changed my view of Microsoft (from lawful evil to somewhere close to lawful neutral) and Google (from chaotic good to somewhere between chaotic neutral and chaotic evil).

by diszd 8y ago

https://degooglisons-internet.org/img/Peha-Banquet-CC-By-1920.jpg https://degooglisons-internet.org/img/Peha-Banquet-CC-By-192... This is not what I want the Internet to be.

quickthrower2 8y ago

That graphic is unfortunate

tpush 8y ago
How so?
jcelerier 8y ago
it is a reference to Asterix, a very famous strip comic (https://fredericbaylot.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/13asterix-et-le-chaudron.jpg?w=1140 https://fredericbaylot.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/13asterix...) ; it symbolizes resistance (and ultimately victory) against something that seems much bigger and stronger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix)
- diszd 8y ago
  Only that in that strip comic, the round table is not full of mongrels.
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mkettn 8y ago

At least Google and Apple are big contributors to open source software (e.g. Chromium, CUPS). Instead of roasting big companies (because... privacy?) we should work together. This picture does more harm, because it view companies purely as enemies.

saagarjha 8y ago
> At least Google and Apple are big contributors to open source software (e.g. Chromium, CUPS). …that's a strange choice. Basically every company in that comic contributes in some way to open source.
- kome 8y ago
  Contributing to open source is not contributing to free software, the big 5 are indeed all doing quite the opposite: creating walled gardens, trying to monopolize the distribution of software and goods, and pushing for a web monoculture. Also, they are making the web a more centralist and frankly, boring, place.
  - pmoriarty 8y ago
    "creating walled gardens, trying to monopolize the distribution of software and goods, and pushing for a web monoculture" ...and spying on users.
  - saagarjha 8y ago
    That's why I said "open source" and not "free software". Those companies do contribute a bit to "free software", but really only in token amounts.
Phenix88be 8y ago
Open source is NOT free software. You are not free because you are using Chromium instead of Chrome. Free software is a philosophy, Open source just mean every one can read the source. You can contribute to Open Source and be evil...
- icebraining 8y ago
  Chromium is free software, just like the vast majority of open source. The philosophies are certainly different, but the code produced by one generally fits the other definition as well. MIT, BSD, Apache, WTFPL, etc - all of these licenses fit both the open source and free software definitions.

markvdb 8y ago

The image seems to be an allusion to the theme behind the Asterix comic strip, of a small and happily independent Gaul village surrounded by a giant Roman empire unable to conquer it. It's _hard_ to capture a very abstract ideal like free-as-in-freedom web services in one image. To me, a successful image should be about celebrating freedom and independence. The Asterix comic strip succeeds at that, this image not so much. Just like the inhabitants of the mythical Gaul village, I'm ok interacting with the Romans and their empire as long as they don't keep me from doing my thing, in the way I want. The framasoft offerings are really interesting by the way. Do check them out if you haven't yet!

kome 8y ago

omg that's exactly the internet i want :)

AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago

Notably not seated at the table: users.

angieg 8y ago
all people sitted at the table are users !

eitland 8y ago

Oh come on. Let us have some fun, here is one of my favourites, "bliss kaboom!" which shows tux with a rocket launcher: https://hdwallpapers.cat/bliss-kaboom-tux-rocket-launcher-anti-linux-Aeqq https://hdwallpapers.cat/bliss-kaboom-tux-rocket-launcher-an... (although I admit I've changed my view of Microsoft (from lawful evil to somewhere close to lawful neutral) and Google (from chaotic good to somewhere between chaotic neutral and chaotic evil).