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That follow-up tweet freaks me out. What does that have to do with anything, really. I think it's rather unprofessional and would prefer people not make self-co

by mar77i 8y ago

That follow-up tweet freaks me out. What does that have to do with anything, really. I think it's rather unprofessional and would prefer people not make self-congratulatory statements about their personal beliefs.

NextHendrix 8y ago
Most of twitter seems to be self-congratulatory posts about users' beliefs
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TorKlingberg 8y ago
It's a part of Twitter culture. If you are an unknown person and one of your tweets suddenly goes viral, you get to post a follow-up tweet promoting yourself or whatever you want. This person apparently cares about trans rights. I think it started in "black twitter". People would post jokes and it one of them took off they'd post a link to their SoundCloud page asking people to check out their "mixtape". Others started joking that they don't have a SoundCloud, but check out my book/art/Ruby package/craft beer.
draw_down 8y ago
I think it’s okay for people to use their twitter accounts to say what is important to them.
0x262d 8y ago
It's actually good to promote the rights of oppressed people, and it's also highly suspect when other people pretend it's inappropriate to do so purely on grounds of stuffiness. It makes it seem like you either aren't familiar with what you're opining about at all, or you just don't care.
Zeklandia 8y ago
How condescending and moral relativistic of you to say that there is a wrong time and place to assert what is and is not a human right, that there is no unselfish reason to do so, and that human rights are merely a matter of individual preference.
- mar77i 8y ago
  How are trans people excluded from human rights, again? I seem to have missed that part in my source [0], because that should certainly be covered most formidably by article 3, "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person". [0] http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/inde...
  - Zeklandia 8y ago
    Rights that aren't asserted are not likely to be respected. Yes, of course these rights apply to everyone, but the laws and policies being enacted aren't taking those rights away from everyone, they're taking them away from trans people. If there were laws passed to do things like prevent cisgender men and women from using anything other than unisex bathrooms, it wouldn't make much sense to rally support for trans rights, would it? But that's not what's happening, what's happening is an infringement against trans people, specifically. Would it make much sense for firefighters to ignore individual fires and only put fires out when everything was on fire?
    - mar77i 8y ago
      > Rights that aren't asserted are not likely to be respected. I don't see that happening at all. I find this whole activism trope a dangerous game, they indoctrinate each other with a mindest to disregard empirical data and disrespecting authorities put in place by governments. > do things like prevent cisgender men and women from using anything other than unisex bathrooms I'm pretty convinced that where I live you can use whichever bathroom you like, while dressing like the unicorn you are. I'll still be using a urinal, though, because I don't want to make a mess for people, cis or not cis, that need to use the bathroom for more serious business. > infringement against trans people, specifically I condemn violence, especially against one-legged single-parent dwarves. They deserve better and you damn well know it.

by mar77i 8y ago

NextHendrix 8y ago

Most of twitter seems to be self-congratulatory posts about users' beliefs

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TorKlingberg 8y ago

It's a part of Twitter culture. If you are an unknown person and one of your tweets suddenly goes viral, you get to post a follow-up tweet promoting yourself or whatever you want. This person apparently cares about trans rights. I think it started in "black twitter". People would post jokes and it one of them took off they'd post a link to their SoundCloud page asking people to check out their "mixtape". Others started joking that they don't have a SoundCloud, but check out my book/art/Ruby package/craft beer.

draw_down 8y ago

I think it’s okay for people to use their twitter accounts to say what is important to them.

0x262d 8y ago

It's actually good to promote the rights of oppressed people, and it's also highly suspect when other people pretend it's inappropriate to do so purely on grounds of stuffiness. It makes it seem like you either aren't familiar with what you're opining about at all, or you just don't care.

Zeklandia 8y ago

How condescending and moral relativistic of you to say that there is a wrong time and place to assert what is and is not a human right, that there is no unselfish reason to do so, and that human rights are merely a matter of individual preference.

mar77i 8y ago
How are trans people excluded from human rights, again? I seem to have missed that part in my source [0], because that should certainly be covered most formidably by article 3, "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person". [0] http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/inde...
- Zeklandia 8y ago
  Rights that aren't asserted are not likely to be respected. Yes, of course these rights apply to everyone, but the laws and policies being enacted aren't taking those rights away from everyone, they're taking them away from trans people. If there were laws passed to do things like prevent cisgender men and women from using anything other than unisex bathrooms, it wouldn't make much sense to rally support for trans rights, would it? But that's not what's happening, what's happening is an infringement against trans people, specifically. Would it make much sense for firefighters to ignore individual fires and only put fires out when everything was on fire?
  - mar77i 8y ago
    > Rights that aren't asserted are not likely to be respected. I don't see that happening at all. I find this whole activism trope a dangerous game, they indoctrinate each other with a mindest to disregard empirical data and disrespecting authorities put in place by governments. > do things like prevent cisgender men and women from using anything other than unisex bathrooms I'm pretty convinced that where I live you can use whichever bathroom you like, while dressing like the unicorn you are. I'll still be using a urinal, though, because I don't want to make a mess for people, cis or not cis, that need to use the bathroom for more serious business. > infringement against trans people, specifically I condemn violence, especially against one-legged single-parent dwarves. They deserve better and you damn well know it.