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I don't think the next generation of kids is aware of the implications, and issues, of Zuckerberg's plan. To them (or might I even say us), Facebook is a commun

I don't think the next generation of kids is aware of the implications, and issues, of Zuckerberg's plan. To them (or might I even say us), Facebook is a communications platform. It helps us talk to our friends, share interesting content, and enrich our lives. However, most importantly: the issues of no privacy haven't yet manifested themselves. When our job applications get turned down after they look at how outrageous our publicly viewable photos are on our profiles, then we'll start to understand.

natrius 16y ago
I'd rather live in a world where people realize that pretty much everyone takes silly photos, and it doesn't have any effect on one's ability to perform a job. Regardless, photos started off being visible to everyone at your school, which basically makes them accessible by anyone. There are no previous guarantees of privacy that have somehow changed. It's also very easy to set your privacy to your desired level.
- sausagefeet 16y ago
  But it used to be that only people in a whitelist of schools could be on facebook, which was a pretty small number of people.
  - natrius 16y ago
    Photos came out in 2005, I think. Plenty of schools were on Facebook at that point.
    - sausagefeet 16y ago
      "everyone at your school" and "everyone" are different by a few orders of magnitude.
      - natrius 16y ago
        In the context of job applications, it's not different at all. It's not hard to find someone who went to a given school and will look someone up for you. It was commonplace back when school networks were meaningful on Facebook.
marknutter 16y ago
Don't want pictures of yourself doing crazy shit? Don't do crazy shit. Want to live a life not worried about what some idiot employer is going to think about your lifestyle? Then do just that. Stop blaming Facebook for your lifestyle choices and your inability to live with them.
- jdp23 16y ago
  when i grew up i did plenty of crazy shit. sometimes i still do. and i like sharing it with my friends. but that doesn't mean i want to share it with all my family members, potential future colleagues, and employers. Facebook claims that i can control who i share it with, but in practice their constant changes to defaults, confusing user experience, and bugs mean that i can't. Facebook has lied to me -- and their other 500,000,000 users. stop blaming me and letting them off the hook.
- LiveTheDream 16y ago
  There's a world of difference between some friends seeing a kegstand picture, or your boss seeing it. In real life, segmenting your groups of connections is a natural and fairly easy thing to do. When your college buddies and your coworkers are both "facebook friends" the line is blurred in a way that does not represent real life. It's not obvious to everyone how much information they expose via their Facebook account.
mst 16y ago
That strikes me as likely to only be a problem during a transitional phase - once the hiring manager is somebody who's also a facebook addict and also knows there are some pictures on there from when he/she was younger in which stupid shit was being done, it'll go away.

natrius 16y ago

I'd rather live in a world where people realize that pretty much everyone takes silly photos, and it doesn't have any effect on one's ability to perform a job. Regardless, photos started off being visible to everyone at your school, which basically makes them accessible by anyone. There are no previous guarantees of privacy that have somehow changed. It's also very easy to set your privacy to your desired level.

sausagefeet 16y ago
But it used to be that only people in a whitelist of schools could be on facebook, which was a pretty small number of people.
- natrius 16y ago
  Photos came out in 2005, I think. Plenty of schools were on Facebook at that point.
  - sausagefeet 16y ago
    "everyone at your school" and "everyone" are different by a few orders of magnitude.
    - natrius 16y ago
      In the context of job applications, it's not different at all. It's not hard to find someone who went to a given school and will look someone up for you. It was commonplace back when school networks were meaningful on Facebook.

marknutter 16y ago

Don't want pictures of yourself doing crazy shit? Don't do crazy shit. Want to live a life not worried about what some idiot employer is going to think about your lifestyle? Then do just that. Stop blaming Facebook for your lifestyle choices and your inability to live with them.

jdp23 16y ago
when i grew up i did plenty of crazy shit. sometimes i still do. and i like sharing it with my friends. but that doesn't mean i want to share it with all my family members, potential future colleagues, and employers. Facebook claims that i can control who i share it with, but in practice their constant changes to defaults, confusing user experience, and bugs mean that i can't. Facebook has lied to me -- and their other 500,000,000 users. stop blaming me and letting them off the hook.
LiveTheDream 16y ago
There's a world of difference between some friends seeing a kegstand picture, or your boss seeing it. In real life, segmenting your groups of connections is a natural and fairly easy thing to do. When your college buddies and your coworkers are both "facebook friends" the line is blurred in a way that does not represent real life. It's not obvious to everyone how much information they expose via their Facebook account.

mst 16y ago

That strikes me as likely to only be a problem during a transitional phase - once the hiring manager is somebody who's also a facebook addict and also knows there are some pictures on there from when he/she was younger in which stupid shit was being done, it'll go away.