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If that is true, then Canada should have exactly the same problem.
by testrun 8y ago
If that is true, then Canada should have exactly the same problem.
- ramchip 8y agoI would assume Canada has much stronger border control than Mexico.
- jbarham 8y agoThe border between Vancouver and Washington is literally a ditch.
- dleslie 8y agoWhy would you assume that of the longest undefended border on Earth?
- ramchip 8y agoI've heard various stories of people being caught shortly after crossing the border (by accident or otherwise), via cameras and so on. Granted, these might be isolated anecdotes.
- gpm 8y agoI highly doubt it. Our border is really too big to guard effectively, and frankly no one really cares to. There is a border crossing that literally just consists of some cameras and phones: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/northwest-angle https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/northwest-angle (admittedly to smuggle things through this you would have to take a boat to get there, and if you did this regularly someone would probably notice) There are towns (and houses, and at least one library, also a restaurant) split down the middle with no barrier: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-incredible-complications-of-living-atop-the-us-canada-border https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-incredible-complic... And there are ridiculously many miles of basically uninhabited border. It's probably "stronger" at the well traveled crossings, but only because you're not likely to be able to bribe our border guards.
- tathougies 8y agoThe united states and canada invest heavily in a physical barrier. Both countries regularly clear the forests on the border so that the entire border is more easily patrollable. Because of this physical barrier and cooperation between the countries it is extremely difficult to cross the canadian united states border without being immediately noticed and caught.
- mdorazio 8y agoWtf are you talking about? There are numerous stories of people accidentally crossing the border without even knowing it while hiking or boating. And you're really going to tell me that clearing the forests for 20ft at the border magically prevents people from crossing if they want to? Do you think there are thousands of drones patrolling the clearings or something?
- tathougies 8y agoThere are numerous stories I've heard of people crossing the border and then being met by authorities and sent back: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/06/23/a-jogger-accidentally-crossed-into-the-u-s-from-canada-and-was-detained-for-two-weeks/?utm_term=.faa5f2249371 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/06/23... For example, this guy crossed accidentally, and was promptly met by ICE agents. > And you're really going to tell me that clearing the forests for 20ft at the border magically prevents people from crossing if they want to? Yes... it's littered with ground sensors and cameras. > Do you think there are thousands of drones patrolling the clearings or something? No. Of course not. But there is a sophisticated system on both sides to deal promptly with these things.
- mdorazio 8y agoThe story you cited was a jogger (female, by the way) who crossed via road in broad daylight in front of border patrol agents. There are no ground sensors or video cameras in the thousands of miles of border between roads and marked paths - the clearing is just there to tell you that you're at the border. If you're so inclined, you can hike away from border stations and cross between the US and Canada at your leisure.
- trackofalljades 8y agoI believe Canada and Mexico both have more guns per capita than the USA does, but one has less gun violence than the USA and the other has more...feel free to look it up and double check me on that though my brain is rusty and I think I last looked into it around Y2K.
- nahname 8y agoCanada definitely does not have more guns per capita. USA is the highest in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_g...
- sonnyblarney 8y agoCanada has substantially fewer guns than the US, and handguns are basically banned. As a Canadian I've never seen one in my entire life other than on a cop or military.
- alacombe 8y agoBecause you haven't seen one does not mean it's banned. There is easily millions of legal handguns in private hands in Canada, probably another few millions illegal ones (including both the ones in criminals hands, and those in otherwise "law-abiding" families who never bothered to register them).
- shitgoose 8y agoHand guns are not banned in Canada. One cannot carry, but there are plenty of legal handguns at homes. Owner can take hand gun to range and back, but not drive around with it.
- dleslie 8y agoWe do have a problem in that for the non-suicide firearms violence that does occur in Canada a great amount of the weapons involved were smuggled in from the USA and are restricted or prohibited in Canada.
- acdha 8y agoCanada has a much stronger, better funded government and, in particular, they don’t have the drug trade pushing amounts of money rivaling state budgets into crime syndicates. Mexico has been destabilized by U.S. influences fore decades and the widespread corruption is in no small due to the number of areas where honest cops and prosecutors are dead – there’s even a phrase “plomo o plumo” (Silver or lead?) describing the decision so many have been told to make. That’s a huge inflection point which is hard for any country to recover from.