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Alright, thank you. Now, if I were to earn, say a total of $1000 [please feel free to substitute this with a more trivial number, however you may define trivial

Alright, thank you. Now, if I were to earn, say a total of $1000 [please feel free to substitute this with a more trivial number, however you may define trivial] for the whole year on online courses sold to EU residents (considering its a side gig, not too shabby), should I still register?

Nimitz14 8y ago
No https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/selling-in-eu/selling-goods-services/provide-services-abroad/index_en.htm#rules-annual-turnovers https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/selling-in-eu/selling-...
- throwaway_9168 8y ago
  In a way, you have just proved my bigger point about the lack of clarity surrounding these laws. The law didn't even talk about the Euro 10000 exception when it was first introduced [1]. No one knew what to make of it for a good year or two [2]. That is to say, if you did make 5000 Euros in 2018, too bad, you have to register for VAT MOSS (with all the associated costs in terms of time and money exactly when your fledgling business is at its most vulnerable). There are some certified tax people online claiming this doesn't even apply if you are selling to the UK [3]. So should I make an exception only for the UK? By the way, no one outside of the Eurozone actually cares whether UK is a part of the Euro, and why should they? If the very definition of what is considered a EU country is in a flux, are you then also going to ask people to be informed of all the political wrangling in various countries and all the associated timelines? Its a bit hilarious that you think others are whining. I don't have the reference link, but I distinctly remember seeing a top ranked HN'er from the EU whining and whining about the folks who were suggesting cutting off access to their website for the entire Euro bloc because they didn't want to deal with GDPR compliance. Which, from the viewpoint of someone who has a website which doesn't even cater to the Eurozone, makes sense doesn't it? You cannot have your cake and also eat it. Do you think EU has a special internet? Then accept that you will get special (and not always good) treatment. Or if you just want to be an internet freeloader sucking up bandwidth, then shut up and stop whining if people decide to cut you off because of all your insane rules because you (i.e. the Eurocrats) obviously don't have the same skin in the game that others do. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19296087 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19296087 [2] https://help.thinkific.com/support/discussions/topics/314716 https://help.thinkific.com/support/discussions/topics/314716 (see top comment by Catherine) [3] https://www.justanswer.co.uk/tax/c274z-question-concerns-vat-around-digital-access.html https://www.justanswer.co.uk/tax/c274z-question-concerns-vat... (see the last answer)

Nimitz14 8y ago

No https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/selling-in-eu/selling-goods-services/provide-services-abroad/index_en.htm#rules-annual-turnovers https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/selling-in-eu/selling-...

throwaway_9168 8y ago
In a way, you have just proved my bigger point about the lack of clarity surrounding these laws. The law didn't even talk about the Euro 10000 exception when it was first introduced [1]. No one knew what to make of it for a good year or two [2]. That is to say, if you did make 5000 Euros in 2018, too bad, you have to register for VAT MOSS (with all the associated costs in terms of time and money exactly when your fledgling business is at its most vulnerable). There are some certified tax people online claiming this doesn't even apply if you are selling to the UK [3]. So should I make an exception only for the UK? By the way, no one outside of the Eurozone actually cares whether UK is a part of the Euro, and why should they? If the very definition of what is considered a EU country is in a flux, are you then also going to ask people to be informed of all the political wrangling in various countries and all the associated timelines? Its a bit hilarious that you think others are whining. I don't have the reference link, but I distinctly remember seeing a top ranked HN'er from the EU whining and whining about the folks who were suggesting cutting off access to their website for the entire Euro bloc because they didn't want to deal with GDPR compliance. Which, from the viewpoint of someone who has a website which doesn't even cater to the Eurozone, makes sense doesn't it? You cannot have your cake and also eat it. Do you think EU has a special internet? Then accept that you will get special (and not always good) treatment. Or if you just want to be an internet freeloader sucking up bandwidth, then shut up and stop whining if people decide to cut you off because of all your insane rules because you (i.e. the Eurocrats) obviously don't have the same skin in the game that others do. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19296087 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19296087 [2] https://help.thinkific.com/support/discussions/topics/314716 https://help.thinkific.com/support/discussions/topics/314716 (see top comment by Catherine) [3] https://www.justanswer.co.uk/tax/c274z-question-concerns-vat-around-digital-access.html https://www.justanswer.co.uk/tax/c274z-question-concerns-vat... (see the last answer)