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Thanks. I haven't studied much about the history of Japanese Anime but I did some on Japanese manga and I was under the impression, Anime was merely a piggyback
by marv_in 16y ago
Thanks. I haven't studied much about the history of Japanese Anime but I did some on Japanese manga and I was under the impression, Anime was merely a piggyback on Tezuka's dream of having a movie version of his mangas which coupled by the success of his pioneering designs and cheap printing allowed for the type of growth that would help Anime flourish.
Unfortunately for us here, this isn't quite the case from my little observation of our culture. Even start-ups work on a corporate mindset. Just a few days ago, I spotted someone selling a DVD of Ubuntu for higher than the average price of pirated DVDs. This doesn't even take into account the difficulty of establishing meet-ups here.
I apologize if these just sound like excuses. I'm just trying to put the problem into context from my perspective in case this allows for a better explanation of what type of non-government development that can be done to turn this concept into a reality.
- hasenj 16y agoHey, I know what you mean, I'm also from a third world country. Though I've been living in Canada for years now so I might have forgotten what things are like. Something that might help: Myers-Briggs personality indicator. SJ types tend to work on a corporate mind-set. Try to find NT or NF types; they might start with a corporate mindset (assuming that's the prevailing mindset around them) but they can easily change and adapt more lean strategies. Actually, let me know how things go for you. I kinda wish I could do the same in my country. Regarding Anime: I've heard that the father of Anime was greatly inspired by Disney. It would've been real easy to slip into a "let's try to clone Disney" mindset when you're in that position. It sure helped that the Japanese had manga before, so they had something of their own to build on, instead of just following another culture's model. That's why I think it's best to just start with a small group of programmers, to build a solid base that could later grow into something bigger.
- marv_in 16y agoThanks. Good luck on your side, I'm just hoping on my side too. It all seems so far away but someone has to try and find answers to the question eventually. From what little I know, Tezuka did want to clone Disney in a sense. Prior to this there were comics before that resembled gag manga and Tezuka, finding difficulty in amassing resources to clone a Disney movie, tried to convert Disney unto paper with the current popular drawing style of the time. Where he became a pioneer was in the area where he saw more of Disney than the art style. This combined with other old movies he knew of made him want to "clone cinema unto paper". Thus began both the success of manga and anime. Manga in the sense of Tezuka's pioneering cinema-like over comic-style like of pacing (at the time) and Anime due to the combined work ethic plus consistent high quality works he made which made it impossible for producers to resist offering an "Anime" version of his works. (Unfortunately or fortunately, this was also what leads to the unfair and unequal salary of many manga artists today. In those early days, the manga creator literally gave away their works to allow for an animated version setting aside certain industry celebrities and the model continues up till today except nowadays it works closer to a start-up where the professional manga artist is supplied food and rooms and materials to polish their work and then having an anime of your work is more of an honor than a hand-out) Anyways, if you don't mind, how do you envision a solid base to be? Even today it seems Silicon Valley isn't quite as solid as it is and there are talks of talent shortage and high costs of living - I'm curious what a solid base really is. Over here, from my understanding, programmers don't so much work together as they end up interning for whichever company is willing to accept them as on the job trainees. In the rare chance that there is a small group of programmers working together, they are almost immediately formed through university projects otherwise they become unknown freelancers working with their former classmates or past acquaintances. I think the same holds true for Silicon Valley only guys like Zuckerberg comes from already elite schools and most people are dreamers and the ones that aren't but are overly skilled unless I'm mistaken get acquired by Google or Facebook and lured by certain luxuries. On our end, and again I could be mistaken, I don't think we even have a YCombinator type of start-up training and almost everyone is on the follower mindset with regards to web services because not only is the money hard to support your self with but the Philippines isn't as internet surfing as other countries. (If you were to take a web surfing pie, I would assume majority of the users are using Facebook or playing MMORPG games. I could be highly mistaken since I don't have access to professional analytics programs but lurking in net cafes these are what I spot) There is probably a higher hierarchy of elite level programmers and designers though but not only am I hard pressed to imagine them not already working or moving elsewhere in another country but I myself don't have investor level cash to satisfy them.
- hasenj 16y agoI imagine a solid base starting with the right kind of "knowledge". From what I observed, and this is very subjective, but people who clump around MS technologies tend to produce lousy communities where not much innovation happens. I would start with attempting to produce (or translate) good material that has the potential to produce programmers who understand their craft really well and have a really good understanding about systems (to the extent that they can manage a web server, for example, and ssh into it, and edit files with vim, and all that stuff). Maybe also having a few projects that people can clump around, something that's open source, interesting enough for people to want to use it and contribute to it. Again I don't really want to clone Silicon Valley per se, what I want to clone is online open source communities. And again, it's not really about cloning, but about using that model as something to aim for, at least initially.