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> Is a gun less ethical than a syringe because it can be used for violence? A gun's purpose is to shoot bullets. A syringe has the purpose of delivering fluid
by adjkant 8y ago
> Is a gun less ethical than a syringe because it can be used for violence?
A gun's purpose is to shoot bullets. A syringe has the purpose of delivering fluid into the human body. It's not hard to evaluate the ethics of the most common actions for each of those. While the tool itself technically has no ethics, owning or using the tool tends to have ethical implications. In a practical world, it is very fair to evaluate those implications, at least at an estimation level.
Don't get me wrong, there's a ton of complexity when it comes to tools and ethics and no easy answers, and with the luddite example it brings in questions of work ethics and societal structure, so the loom doesn't exist in a vacuum. But not all tools bring in the entirety of ethics into consideration. There are ethical estimations of tools (think of them as potential ethical energy) that we can try to estimate. Syringe > Gun seems like one we can make. Gun vs Nuke, a bit harder due to the consideration of use vs threat of use. The loom alone is pretty neutral and is far more reflective of direct context, where the context of a gun or syringe generalizes easier. And of course these are all my calculations, and you and others can have different ones, but I think if we really decided to spend 8 hours nailing down this discussion, you would indeed see a loose tiering/ranking of tools and "potential ethical energy". I wouldn't be surprised to see other measures/categories emerge either such as severity, risk, and commonality of use case.
The question becomes this: what is the "potential ethical energy" of AI. IMO it's very close to the loom in that the context matters the most, but there's also a severity of effect factor in play that makes it more dangerous. Still, I would say AI has an overall positive potential ethical energy.
- dogma1138 8y agoThere is no such thing as an ethical potential energy it’s not even a useful thought experiment.
- adjkant 8y ago> There is no such thing as an ethical potential energy Yes there is, I just made it up on the spot and defined it! If you mean that it is not a commonly discussed philosophical term then yes, you'd be correct. > It’s not even a useful thought experiment Now that's a discussion to bad had that you gave no evidence for its lack of use, while I used it to describe tools that humans use and how an "ethical potential energy" calculation can correlate to the practical effects of a tool, and perhaps how we should view/regulate/restrict said items in the context of humans. You could easily derive firearm laws from such a base if you chose to do so, for example. If that derivation is valid then depends on if the concept has the proper grounding in relation to ethics, which is again a discussion to be had.