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The hardware refresh for 5G has only just started in a few counties right now (Korea, China and the US). Everyone else will get there but its not happening yet.

The hardware refresh for 5G has only just started in a few counties right now (Korea, China and the US). Everyone else will get there but its not happening yet. No serious operator is doing a software upgrade for this. The main driver for 5G is increased bandwidth and that comes from new boxes throughout the network. The investment for this is huge and long-lasting. And while it is harder to lose a customer, sure, ripping out one supplier out for another is absolutely what happens in this market. Operators will have some Huawei stuff but I don't known anyone (outside of China) that has built their network on them so ripping that out is a non-issue. Some have already done just that. I wouldn't disagree that Huawei are ahead right in terms of products available right now, the other two are behind but there will be a competitive market. I have no idea why Samsung even get a mention. That confused me. Disclaimer: I work for Nokia (but not in mobile networks, or whatever they call that division these days).

ksec 8y ago
>Operators will have some Huawei stuff but I don't known anyone (outside of China) that has built their network on them so ripping that out is a non-issue. Some have already done just that. I assume there is a missing word built their network soley on them. Vodafone, Three, are two big Operators that has some Huawei deployed in EU. It is rare that any Operator relies on one single Telecom Equipment Vendor. Even China Mobile have both Nokia and Ericsson, as it was part of the deal between EU and China. >No serious operator is doing a software upgrade for this. They were deployed as part of the Capacity expansion in 4G LTE Massive MIMO. This is strictly Sub 6Ghz, all those mmWave are totally different thing. May be deployed isn't the "correct" word. Widely tested, especially in places where an Operator uses TDD spectrum. >I have no idea why Samsung even get a mention. That confused me. Samsung is a relatively new comer to telecom equipment. New in terms of Public knowledge, they were doing it during LTE era but never seems to get anywhere internationally. They are even smaller than ZTE, which is one reason you don't seen any TE market share dictate any special note on them. But they have been active on 5G ever since the possibility of Huawei Contract replacement. I have no information on how they perform in real life though. And I have yet to see any Operators had testing notes using Samsung's Equipment. But knowing how competitive they are, I was hoping they would do well.
- kingosticks 8y ago
  Samsung is interesting, will dig into that. They don't feature at all in the competitive analaysis presentations I sometimes see but maybe that's going to change. Exciting times!
- Aloha 8y ago
  about 1/3rd of sprints network is now Samsung hardware - its very well made, and the software is pretty good too.

ksec 8y ago

>Operators will have some Huawei stuff but I don't known anyone (outside of China) that has built their network on them so ripping that out is a non-issue. Some have already done just that. I assume there is a missing word built their network soley on them. Vodafone, Three, are two big Operators that has some Huawei deployed in EU. It is rare that any Operator relies on one single Telecom Equipment Vendor. Even China Mobile have both Nokia and Ericsson, as it was part of the deal between EU and China. >No serious operator is doing a software upgrade for this. They were deployed as part of the Capacity expansion in 4G LTE Massive MIMO. This is strictly Sub 6Ghz, all those mmWave are totally different thing. May be deployed isn't the "correct" word. Widely tested, especially in places where an Operator uses TDD spectrum. >I have no idea why Samsung even get a mention. That confused me. Samsung is a relatively new comer to telecom equipment. New in terms of Public knowledge, they were doing it during LTE era but never seems to get anywhere internationally. They are even smaller than ZTE, which is one reason you don't seen any TE market share dictate any special note on them. But they have been active on 5G ever since the possibility of Huawei Contract replacement. I have no information on how they perform in real life though. And I have yet to see any Operators had testing notes using Samsung's Equipment. But knowing how competitive they are, I was hoping they would do well.

kingosticks 8y ago
Samsung is interesting, will dig into that. They don't feature at all in the competitive analaysis presentations I sometimes see but maybe that's going to change. Exciting times!
Aloha 8y ago
about 1/3rd of sprints network is now Samsung hardware - its very well made, and the software is pretty good too.