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Jake is a great teacher - I would definitely recommend his book to people new to Python for data science, as well as any talk by him that you can find on youtub

Jake is a great teacher - I would definitely recommend his book to people new to Python for data science, as well as any talk by him that you can find on youtube. Also, it's kind of a shame that matplotlib is still so deeply ingrained in the Python data ecosystem.

jjcc 8y ago
Yes. I follow him for a while. Great guy. Seems working for google now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inN8seMm7UI&t=4s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inN8seMm7UI&t=4s
simonh 8y ago
Why a shame? Is there something better it’s crowding out?
- Tarq0n 8y ago
  Assuming all you want to do is make some graphs, almost every alternative is better. Matplotlib is like the opengl of plotting libraries, there's almost no abstraction, you have to create plots in an imperative way and it's extremely verbose. A plotting library focused on useability should let you specify what you want in a declarative manner, then get out of your way. Ggplot2 being the prime example.
  - billfruit 8y ago
    It seems to be somewhat inspired by Matlab, which isn't an elegant system by any stretch. And for the people who hasn't had exposure to matlab, matplotlib seems overly convoluted.
  - galenlynch 8y ago
    Do you have any concrete examples for Python? As far as I know, ggplot2 is only for R. I would be interested to try out some alternatives to Matplotlib.
    - Tarq0n 8y ago
      Altair (based on vega-lite) is a personal favorite. Plotnine is also a good port of ggplot.
      - galenlynch 8y ago
        Thanks!
  - j88439h84 8y ago
    The good python port is https://github.com/has2k1/plotnine/ https://github.com/has2k1/plotnine/
lars512 8y ago
I've been enjoying Chartify quite a lot. It works well with data frames and generates gorgeous plots by default.
domoritz 8y ago
Jake started Altair, a declarative visualization library that is becoming quite popular. Check it out at https://altair-viz.github.io/ https://altair-viz.github.io/.

jjcc 8y ago

Yes. I follow him for a while. Great guy. Seems working for google now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inN8seMm7UI&t=4s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inN8seMm7UI&t=4s

simonh 8y ago

Why a shame? Is there something better it’s crowding out?

Tarq0n 8y ago
Assuming all you want to do is make some graphs, almost every alternative is better. Matplotlib is like the opengl of plotting libraries, there's almost no abstraction, you have to create plots in an imperative way and it's extremely verbose. A plotting library focused on useability should let you specify what you want in a declarative manner, then get out of your way. Ggplot2 being the prime example.
- billfruit 8y ago
  It seems to be somewhat inspired by Matlab, which isn't an elegant system by any stretch. And for the people who hasn't had exposure to matlab, matplotlib seems overly convoluted.
- galenlynch 8y ago
  Do you have any concrete examples for Python? As far as I know, ggplot2 is only for R. I would be interested to try out some alternatives to Matplotlib.
  - Tarq0n 8y ago
    Altair (based on vega-lite) is a personal favorite. Plotnine is also a good port of ggplot.
    - galenlynch 8y ago
      Thanks!
- j88439h84 8y ago
  The good python port is https://github.com/has2k1/plotnine/ https://github.com/has2k1/plotnine/

lars512 8y ago

I've been enjoying Chartify quite a lot. It works well with data frames and generates gorgeous plots by default.

domoritz 8y ago

Jake started Altair, a declarative visualization library that is becoming quite popular. Check it out at https://altair-viz.github.io/ https://altair-viz.github.io/.