5 ms·
Yes, people and organizations have come forward and said they have evidence. It's a simple google search away. You, similar to the OP, seem to be ignoring all o
by hnmonkey 8y ago
Yes, people and organizations have come forward and said they have evidence. It's a simple google search away. You, similar to the OP, seem to be ignoring all of the many warnings from many organizations. If you think that intelligence agencies are going to show you, a random person, or the public the evidence directly I think you're not really aware of how they work. Why would they burn assets and methods to prove this when everyone agrees on it?
I would probably agree with you that attaining evidence of this spying would be somewhat easier for governments than for others. However, the rest of your assertion that these accusations are only due to geopolitics is pretty out there given it's almost universal at this point that people think Huawei are not on the up and up.
Hurtling accusations without any sort of supporting evidence is literally what you've just done. There's a ton of evidence out there to not use them.
Here are some pieces of evidence for you that literally were on page 1 and 2 of a search:
CIA, NSA, FBI just last year saying the US shouldn't use them:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marcochiappetta/2018/11/25/u-s-advises-allies-to-shun-huawei-telecom-equipment-citing-potential-cyberthreats/#667642fb8aa8 https://www.forbes.com/sites/marcochiappetta/2018/11/25/u-s-...
At least the US and Australian Intelligence services have hard evidence of them spying for the Chinese government:
https://www.axios.com/report-australian-intelligence-know-huawei-1541285886-42f1eb64-98de-422f-9686-4174e41ef37e.html https://www.axios.com/report-australian-intelligence-know-hu...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-security/former-cia-boss-says-aware-of-evidence-huawei-spying-for-china-idUSBRE96I06I20130719 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-security/former-ci...
- deleted 8y ago[deleted]
- jake_the_third 8y agoProvide evidence that huawei is spying or keep your mouth shut. It's that simple.
- hnmonkey 8y agoYep, I'll just grab that from the CIA, NSA, FBI, and Australian Intelligence services for you. Should I assume you want it by today? This might be the most absurd and rude statement all in one that I've seen on HN before. You're surprisingly aggressive and defensive on behalf of a Chinese multinational in your comments and don't actually seem to be interested in hearing the truth. Interesting.
- jake_the_third 8y agoI'm not being aggressive on behalf of a chinese company, I'm being aggressive against unsupported accusations spouted by morons because it happens to fit with their preferred political narrative. If calling innocence-until-proven-guilty and demanding proof is considered absurd, then I'd gladly be such.