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Couldn't agree more. Jira, bitbucket, outlook, gmail and the list goes on and on. The really jarring redesigns are literally maddening and make me angry. They a

by mnm1 8y ago

Couldn't agree more. Jira, bitbucket, outlook, gmail and the list goes on and on. The really jarring redesigns are literally maddening and make me angry. They are so shitty. The other designs are basically the same design with more whitespace. Either way, the app doesn't benefit and at best, you're angering users. If I could stop using jira or Bitbucket, I would just for their shitty UIs. Things that used to be one click or two now take many clicks or are simply no longer doable. The UIs are not intuitive. The shitty designers never design things properly so when I have two windows side by side, they still put two or three menu bars on the left side, leaving no space for the actual content. The redesigns are shit and clearly, they are done too appeal to some dumb ass hipster aesthetic of the designers who clearly don't understand anything about user experience or usability. Just fucking stop before all your users leave.

userbinator 8y ago
All the ones you named are websites, and user stylesheets are a thing, so if you're sufficiently incensed by a site you're forced to use, you can apply your own CSS to fix what can be fixed relatively easily; increasing contrast, changing colours, and adding borders/delimiting lines is what I most often use it for. Chances are you're not the only one hating the changes, so sharing your CSS with coworkers (or even the Internet if it's a public site) is also a good idea. I've "converted"/educated a few coworkers just by them noticing "how did you get it to look like that?" (Sending my CSS back to the original site's owners has resulted in everything from threats of legal action to some actual changes in the right direction.)
- mnm1 8y ago
  CSS will bring back the missing buttons? It'll magically show the information that was there before? What is this CSS you speak of? The user experience can't be fixed by CSS. Maybe I can hide that annoying menu, true. Then I can't do any of the common activities within it. I'm not sure you understand what user experience is or the limitations of CSS.
  - userbinator 8y ago
    I did imply not everything could be fixed by CSS, but it is very useful for adjusting font sizes, spacing, and colours to something more sane.
    - mnm1 8y ago
      None of those things are actual UX problems.
TylerE 8y ago
Most of the brain damage these days is JS, not CSS. Substantially harder to work around.

by mnm1 8y ago

userbinator 8y ago

All the ones you named are websites, and user stylesheets are a thing, so if you're sufficiently incensed by a site you're forced to use, you can apply your own CSS to fix what can be fixed relatively easily; increasing contrast, changing colours, and adding borders/delimiting lines is what I most often use it for. Chances are you're not the only one hating the changes, so sharing your CSS with coworkers (or even the Internet if it's a public site) is also a good idea. I've "converted"/educated a few coworkers just by them noticing "how did you get it to look like that?" (Sending my CSS back to the original site's owners has resulted in everything from threats of legal action to some actual changes in the right direction.)

mnm1 8y ago
CSS will bring back the missing buttons? It'll magically show the information that was there before? What is this CSS you speak of? The user experience can't be fixed by CSS. Maybe I can hide that annoying menu, true. Then I can't do any of the common activities within it. I'm not sure you understand what user experience is or the limitations of CSS.
- userbinator 8y ago
  I did imply not everything could be fixed by CSS, but it is very useful for adjusting font sizes, spacing, and colours to something more sane.
  - mnm1 8y ago
    None of those things are actual UX problems.

TylerE 8y ago

Most of the brain damage these days is JS, not CSS. Substantially harder to work around.