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Most of them are referred to as willful violators. To them, less than 1% of people will chase them down, so the risk is worth it. What do most of us do? Block
by instaheat 8y ago
Most of them are referred to as willful violators. To them, less than 1% of people will chase them down, so the risk is worth it.
What do most of us do? Block the numbers, install apps to block them, yell at them, curse their name, not pick up.
Consequently, if you can find out who they are as AnimalMuppet rightly indicated, you can make them pay YOU. Personally, I've collected nearly $4,000 generated from carefully drafted letters to the violators. I am sending off a demand for another settlement payment soon, I just haven't had the time to schlep on down to the post office.
The money represents an out of court settlement. It works. They would rather pay you and have you shut up, than you drag them into court. USUALLY, you have them dead to rights and the process of discovery should you go to court would reveal they did in fact call you.
It's an investment of your time, you have to take the call and convince the salesperson they are about to make a sale. Usually you can get the info if they think they are going to make a sale. I feign interest in what they are selling. Some of them are really good and won't give up any information because they understand the risk of doing so. I've had both experienced and non-experienced reps on my phone.
Funny thing is, I get less calls now. They've practically stopped at least for one vertical - auto warranties. I suspect I may be blacklisted or they somehow share information with each other, because there is a very high probability that if you call me, your company will be writing me a check.
I am happy to divulge more information, my friend has written an Ebook on the subject in detail complete with template letters and is a complete "how to" guide on collecting money from the robocallers. It's extremely satisfying. Only cost $47.
- hadlock 8y agoI am all for this, but would love some guidelines (tips? pointers?) on how to figure out who they are to get the process started.
- instaheat 8y agoYou have to get them to cough it up. Obviously you can't start the call with "Who are you?!?" They'll just hang up on you - and call again some other time. There are different strategies to accomplish this. My personal strategy is to act interested. The Ebook goes into further detail and most importantly includes the template letter that was drafted with the help of a lawyer I assume. It's a small investment.
- gesman 8y agoFollow the money trail is the only way. Buy cheapest thing from them with non-anonymous payment method - and then you have some trail.
- elipsey 8y agoHow do you identify the caller? All of the robo calls are I get are clearly from spoofed numbers; they spoof my area code from a previous location, but are clearly targeting people in SF, e.g. tax scams on foreign workers, stuff I can't understand in Chinese. Everyone I know gets spam with similar spoofing. If you'll only tell me for $47, color me skeptical. :)
- instaheat 8y agoIt's simple, you ask them who they are. The ones that are not based out of the US you cannot collect from. I got a call from Florida. Picked it up. Pretended to be interested. They coughed it up 45 minutes into the call after pretending to want to check their BBB page. I hate to give away all the info from the Ebook. Everyone is skeptical. Myself included. I paid him the money because he put forth the effort to put the information together, and he's my friend, I trust him. It's paid off, clearly.
- instaheat 8y agoYou'll have to forgive his use of a cheesy domain extension but he put up a quick site to sell his Ebook. Full disclosure this is an affiliate link but at a $7 commission I assure you you're not making me rich. If you want, you can look up all the various laws and have a lawyer draw up a template letter for you, or you can pay the $47. He includes a photo gallery of the checks people have collected with info redacted for obvious reasons. That's what sold me. https://robocalls.cash/ref/keven/ https://robocalls.cash/ref/keven/
- instaheat 8y agoNot sure why I am being downvoted. How else do you expect to extract information out of someone who doesn't want to tell you who they are necessarily? Think about it logically. I really don't know why I bother trying to explain it actually. I'll just keep continuing to cash checks in my spare time, and you skeptics can continue to get calls.
- cimmanom 8y ago
- joejerryronnie 8y agoI'm probably too busy/lazy to do this myself, but it warms my heart knowing that somebody is screwing with the robocallers. I will now send each robocall to VM with the thought of them bitterly writing another check to @instaheat sometime in the near future.
- instaheat 8y agoHaha I appreciate that! I told a few of my co-workers and even after "showing them the money" they had the same response as you. Just too damn busy to invest the time into the calls.