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>This makes it impossible to discuss because this small group's focus is so different from everyone else's. Well, if people don't value decentralization, there
by AgentME 8y ago
>This makes it impossible to discuss because this small group's focus is so different from everyone else's.
Well, if people don't value decentralization, there's not much need for them to use Bitcoin. There's a lot of problems that come with decentralization.
I feel this is like comparing car seating to couches. Car seat fans only seem to care about going places! Car seats are small and don't let you lie down? But it gets places! They need a seat buckle and don't let you sit freely? But it gets places! They shake a bit and are usually surrounded by noise? But it gets places!
Some of the complaints can have some incremental improvements, but they're unlikely to be solvable and the fact that someone might rate the complaints highly relative to the goal implies that they're not in the target market for the thing and its large trade-offs.
/overly general point. Some specific responses:
Some of the goals you mention (not useful, massive price fluctuations) are generally only solvable with more people using it. If there were easier more direct solutions, people would've done them.
>Hard for normal people to use?
Most wallet software I've used was super easy. If you want to receive money, you give someone one of your addresses. If you want to send some money, you put in their address. (A billion times easier than figuring out what banking numbers you have to put in to your bank's website to send someone money, and then them worrying about whether that lets you withdraw from their account too.) The main problem is that some wallet clients are full clients that need to download the whole blockchain first, but being patient or switching to a lightweight client solves that.
It was a bit hard to first get bitcoin, but that's because of the hoops companies have to jump through to deal with the banking system. I'm not sure how an open decentralized system can make this part easier. That's up to the exchanges and banks. It doesn't make much sense to blame crypto-enthusiasts for being close-minded and ignoring issues they could work on.
- LiquidSky 8y agoThe problem with your analogy is that people understand car seats and couches are and do different things. Crypto enthusiasts seems to want Bitcoin (or something else) to become widely adopted and used but are highly resistant or indifferent to the myriad problems that prevent such adoptions on ideological grounds. To use your analogy, it would be like someone believing that car seats should replace couches everywhere but ignoring all of the complaints you listed. >Most wallet software I've used was super easy. Do you have a technical background such that you are familiar and comfortable with using even complicated technology? I often find that since crypto boosters are developers or engineers, their ideas of simplicity and ease are wildly different from your average Joe.
- root_axis 8y ago> if people don't value decentralization, there's not much need for them to use Bitcoin Correct. That is the reason why most people don't need and will never need bitcoin.
- AgentME 8y agoI think decentralization is important. I think the benefits of it should be argued to get people to use Bitcoin, instead of crypto-enthusiasts trying to get people to use Bitcoin because it's "easier" or lower fees, which aren't always true. If email didn't exist and people mainly used Facebook messages, I'd want to help agitate for something open and decentralized like email to become popular. It wouldn't be because I thought email was easier than Facebook messages. It's because there's benefits to the competition that comes from an open ecosystem.