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Comparing the SPLC, a legitimate anti-racist organization, with the Chinese Communist Party is absolutely ridiculous.

BurningFrog 8y ago
Many say the SPLC has lost its credibility of late. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty...
- dsfyu404ed 8y ago
  Is there any rights/liberties special interest organization that hasn't been turned into political crap? The ACLU and NRA are basically the DNC and RNC at this point.
- fixermark 8y ago
  I'd recommend against using weasel-words like "many" if you're going to dump as your source the author of "Courting Disaster: How the CIA Kept America Safe and How Barack Obama Is Inviting the Next Attack." If what you're trying to say is "The American political right wing has grown to distrust the SPLC," I'd agree, but I'd note it's the same right wing that couldn't seem to find its voice to condemn a political rally where participants shouted "Jews will not replace us" and "Blood and soil," a rally that resulted in the death of one counter-protester due to vehicular homicide. Given the evidence I see, sadly, it's not the SPLC I'm leaning towards distrusting.
cat199 8y ago
I dunno, here's the generally slightly left leaning washington post allowing publication of an OP-ed entitled "The Southern Poverty Law Center has lost all credibility": https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty... agreed, not the CP of china, but some of the facts detailed in that article, even if selectively curated to prove a point, seem a bit egregious and wacky..
- estebank 8y ago
  That is an opinion piece by someone described in Wikipedia as > Marc Alexander Thiessen (born January 13, 1967) is an American author, columnist, and political commentator. He writes for The Washington Post newspaper. He served as a speechwriter for United States President George W. Bush (2004–09) and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (2001–06). > (...) His one book is a defense of the Torture Memos and "enhanced interrogation methods" used by the CIA under the George W. Bush administration. Take that as you will.
  - cat199 8y ago
    > Take that as you will. you mean like, by prefacing with a big disclaimer like: "here's the generally slightly left leaning washington post allowing publication of an OP-ed entitled" if it were that far out there, they wouldn't publish it.
vowelless 8y ago
The moment you put Maajid Nawaz and Hirsi Ali on a list titled “anti Islamic extremists”, next to Pamela Gellar and Spencer, you have lost all credibility. Thankfully Maajid sued them for millions and won. Edit: it should say “settled for millions” instead of “won”. My bad.
- smhost 8y ago
  Stop spreading misinformation. Maajid didn't win.
  - ceejayoz 8y ago
    There may have been a settlement, but it's quite clear he was the winner in it. The SPLC president made a video apology and they paid millions to him. (Rightly so, in this case; it was a clear fuckup.)
  - leereeves 8y ago
    The irony of saying "stop spreading misinformation" on a blatantly false post. > The Southern Poverty Law Center, the venerable civil-rights organization, has issued a formal apology to British political activist Maajid Nawaz and will make a $3.4 million payment over his inclusion in a 2016 list of “anti-Muslim extremists.” https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/maajid-nawaz-v-splc/562646/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/maajid-...
    - smhost 8y ago
      it was a settlement, genius.
      - ceejayoz 8y ago
        It was an extremely one-sided settlement that indicated the SPLC knew they'd lose badly in court. If I got an apology and millions of dollars from someone, I'd count that as a win. That doesn't take genius-level intellect to read between the lines.

Many say the SPLC has lost its credibility of late. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty...

dsfyu404ed 8y ago
Is there any rights/liberties special interest organization that hasn't been turned into political crap? The ACLU and NRA are basically the DNC and RNC at this point.
fixermark 8y ago
I'd recommend against using weasel-words like "many" if you're going to dump as your source the author of "Courting Disaster: How the CIA Kept America Safe and How Barack Obama Is Inviting the Next Attack." If what you're trying to say is "The American political right wing has grown to distrust the SPLC," I'd agree, but I'd note it's the same right wing that couldn't seem to find its voice to condemn a political rally where participants shouted "Jews will not replace us" and "Blood and soil," a rally that resulted in the death of one counter-protester due to vehicular homicide. Given the evidence I see, sadly, it's not the SPLC I'm leaning towards distrusting.

cat199 8y ago

I dunno, here's the generally slightly left leaning washington post allowing publication of an OP-ed entitled "The Southern Poverty Law Center has lost all credibility": https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty... agreed, not the CP of china, but some of the facts detailed in that article, even if selectively curated to prove a point, seem a bit egregious and wacky..

estebank 8y ago
That is an opinion piece by someone described in Wikipedia as > Marc Alexander Thiessen (born January 13, 1967) is an American author, columnist, and political commentator. He writes for The Washington Post newspaper. He served as a speechwriter for United States President George W. Bush (2004–09) and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (2001–06). > (...) His one book is a defense of the Torture Memos and "enhanced interrogation methods" used by the CIA under the George W. Bush administration. Take that as you will.
- cat199 8y ago
  > Take that as you will. you mean like, by prefacing with a big disclaimer like: "here's the generally slightly left leaning washington post allowing publication of an OP-ed entitled" if it were that far out there, they wouldn't publish it.

vowelless 8y ago

The moment you put Maajid Nawaz and Hirsi Ali on a list titled “anti Islamic extremists”, next to Pamela Gellar and Spencer, you have lost all credibility. Thankfully Maajid sued them for millions and won. Edit: it should say “settled for millions” instead of “won”. My bad.

smhost 8y ago
Stop spreading misinformation. Maajid didn't win.
- ceejayoz 8y ago
  There may have been a settlement, but it's quite clear he was the winner in it. The SPLC president made a video apology and they paid millions to him. (Rightly so, in this case; it was a clear fuckup.)
- leereeves 8y ago
  The irony of saying "stop spreading misinformation" on a blatantly false post. > The Southern Poverty Law Center, the venerable civil-rights organization, has issued a formal apology to British political activist Maajid Nawaz and will make a $3.4 million payment over his inclusion in a 2016 list of “anti-Muslim extremists.” https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/maajid-nawaz-v-splc/562646/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/maajid-...
  - smhost 8y ago
    it was a settlement, genius.
    - ceejayoz 8y ago
      It was an extremely one-sided settlement that indicated the SPLC knew they'd lose badly in court. If I got an apology and millions of dollars from someone, I'd count that as a win. That doesn't take genius-level intellect to read between the lines.