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I think the general public doesn't really shed a tear for the advertising industry. Those who cry over this probably have a financial stake in ads&marketing.

Nasrudith 8y ago
They did say some. It is also what is sarcastically referred to as felony interference with a business model but that is a pretty niche term.
- zentiggr 8y ago
  I had not heard that term, but oh my, wouldn't it be hilarious if some congress critters tried to get that written up as an actual law?
dwild 8y ago
> have a financial stake in ads&marketing. Don't we all have a stake in ads? You made me realize this because "cry over this" but I'm not in that industry at all and your sentence seemed to me like just an over-generalization made to justify your point of view. I then remembered all the time that I couldn't have read/watch/learned something if I didn't have ads in the past, simply because I couldn't convince my parents to use their credit card (for valid reason though). I remember all the time right I wouldn't have read/watch/learned simply because the risk of it being not worth it was too high even nowadays. I remember all the time that I currently have to simply trust the comments over an article because it's behind a paywall and I just can't subscribe to every news website. Actually I have a pretty big stake in this industry. I wouldn't have been the software engineer I am right now if it wasn't from the content that was subsidized by ads. The ones that made that content were also underage and were able to build a pretty big company out of it (Site du Zéro, they are now called OpenClassroom) that now employ an hundred employees (luckily they no longer depends on ads, but still it was what made them being able to breakthrough).
- criddell 8y ago
  Many of us don't have a particular problem with advertising in general, it's mostly the surveillance aspect of it. Your parents wouldn't or couldn't pay for things you wanted access to. Do you think they would have been okay with you trading your privacy instead?
  - jordigh 8y ago
    And many of us do have a problem with advertising in general. Most people don't want to see ads. At best we put up with them or manage to ignore them. Very rarely, do we actively seek out ads. Usually we only do that when we get lots of entertainment from the ad itself, as in the Lego Movie There has to be a better way to make sure the internet doesn't starve than ads, and not seeing that way doesn't mean that ads and manipulative marketing are inevitable.

Nasrudith 8y ago

They did say some. It is also what is sarcastically referred to as felony interference with a business model but that is a pretty niche term.

zentiggr 8y ago
I had not heard that term, but oh my, wouldn't it be hilarious if some congress critters tried to get that written up as an actual law?

dwild 8y ago

> have a financial stake in ads&marketing. Don't we all have a stake in ads? You made me realize this because "cry over this" but I'm not in that industry at all and your sentence seemed to me like just an over-generalization made to justify your point of view. I then remembered all the time that I couldn't have read/watch/learned something if I didn't have ads in the past, simply because I couldn't convince my parents to use their credit card (for valid reason though). I remember all the time right I wouldn't have read/watch/learned simply because the risk of it being not worth it was too high even nowadays. I remember all the time that I currently have to simply trust the comments over an article because it's behind a paywall and I just can't subscribe to every news website. Actually I have a pretty big stake in this industry. I wouldn't have been the software engineer I am right now if it wasn't from the content that was subsidized by ads. The ones that made that content were also underage and were able to build a pretty big company out of it (Site du Zéro, they are now called OpenClassroom) that now employ an hundred employees (luckily they no longer depends on ads, but still it was what made them being able to breakthrough).

criddell 8y ago
Many of us don't have a particular problem with advertising in general, it's mostly the surveillance aspect of it. Your parents wouldn't or couldn't pay for things you wanted access to. Do you think they would have been okay with you trading your privacy instead?
- jordigh 8y ago
  And many of us do have a problem with advertising in general. Most people don't want to see ads. At best we put up with them or manage to ignore them. Very rarely, do we actively seek out ads. Usually we only do that when we get lots of entertainment from the ad itself, as in the Lego Movie There has to be a better way to make sure the internet doesn't starve than ads, and not seeing that way doesn't mean that ads and manipulative marketing are inevitable.