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Why would anyone work for a company like this? You startup folk are much better than this! Thankfully this person pushed back. Why would you ever put up with s
by wil421 8y ago
Why would anyone work for a company like this? You startup folk are much better than this! Thankfully this person pushed back.
Why would you ever put up with something like this? I would laugh at the recruiter or manager if I was asked to do something like this. It’s akin to that door to door knife company that takes advantage of college kids.
There was a wired article in the twitter link you provided.
>She did a 30-minute job interview over Google Hangouts with the London-based head of business development, Andrius Biceika, and was immediately told she had passed to the next round, which would involve a small test. “The surprise came when I received the task and it asked me to get the company as many clients as possible, with each one depositing €10 into the app,” says Laura.
The instructions on the exercise said the applicants should recruit at least 200 clients in a week to have a chance at passing to the next interview phase. The task’s description didn’t guarantee that reaching the target would automatically qualify applicants for a job, but did advise them on a number of ways they could get clients, such as sharing a “promo code” with their friends, sharing it on social media, and posting promotional flyers on university campuses.
After Laura wrote back refusing to do the task and saying she was disappointed that the company would “take advantage of someone that is looking for a job”, Biceika emailed her saying she was the only candidate out of over 350 that had complained about the task. “Apologies you're not up to show what you're capable of,” he wrote in the email.
- kilroy123 8y agoWhat the hell, is that even legal?
- AstralStorm 8y agoIt is, if you agree to do it. In current version of capitalism, person applying for a job has almost no rights except perhaps GDPR.
- sschueller 8y agoIsn't that illegal in the UK without compensation?
- benj111 8y agoThey kind of are getting compensated (the job offer), I think the issue is if the applicant didn't divulge to their 'friends' that they were getting a job on the back of it. Not sure if applicants would be classed as employees in this context though.
- tachion 8y agoIt is completely legal in the UK without any compensation. I saw companies adding clauses in their contract of 'and you agree to work overtime without any pay' by default and claiming 'it is our standard template, no one complained before you' when confronted about it. Once you agree to such contract, they pretty much own your time.
- mr_gibbins 8y agoI've got one of those. The one time it's come up, in relation to out-of-hours support, I made it clear that there are plenty of other jobs. So the arrangement is that I agree to do any overtime that the company requires, free of charge, providing they don't ask me to do any. In the meantime, if there's an emergency I'll do my best. And we get along quite nicely.
- objclxt 8y ago> It is completely legal in the UK without any compensation. This isn't strictly true. The Working Time Directive provides you the right to work no more than 48 hours a week. It is possible in the UK to opt out of the Working Time Directive, but it is not mandatory. You cannot be forced to do so. So whilst a UK company can legally add a clause that says "you agree to work overtime without any pay", they cannot force you to work that overtime unless you have agreed to opt-out. A company that doesn't hire you because you refuse to opt-out is breaking the law. https://www.gov.uk/maximum-weekly-working-hours https://www.gov.uk/maximum-weekly-working-hours
- ceejayoz 8y ago> A company that doesn't hire you because you refuse to opt-out is breaking the law. Unless the company does something bafflingly stupid, though, there's likely no way to prove that's what happened.
- leereeves 8y ago> “Apologies you're not up to show what you're capable of,” he wrote in the email. It sounds like Laura showed what's she's capable of: standing up to abusive employers. It's a shame she was the only one.
- jessaustin 8y agoShe probably wasn't the only one, either. Con artists lie about everything.
- Slartie 8y agoShe wasn't the only one. I'd guess more than half of them will not have done the task. Saying "you were the only one not doing it" is a way to lure her into eventually doing the task even though she initially decided against it by building up "imaginary peer pressure". And even better: if she has second thoughts and decides to do it, she just gave them a nice argumentative path to "decide" against her later anyway - after all, she did hesitate at first "to fully live up to her potential"...
- gameswithgo 8y ago>Why would anyone work for a company like this? For a sufficient amount of money I would do it. But it would be a LOT.
- sorokod 8y ago"They are telling this of Lord Beaverbrook and a visiting Yankee actress. In a game of hypothetical questions, Beaverbrook asked the lady: ‘Would you live with a stranger if he paid you one million pounds?’ She said she would. ‘And if be paid you five pounds?’ The irate lady fumed: ‘Five pounds. What do you think I am?’ Beaverbrook replied: ‘We’ve already established that. Now we are trying to determine the degree."