4 ms·

I’ve always wanted to see this chart with the US broken down by state.

jopsen 8y ago
I would imagine that there is maybe a few small states that does well, but it's unlikely to be one outlier that draws the entire chart down.
- dwighttk 8y ago
  there could be a few large states where the expenditures are astronomical, pulling the whole US to the right... Who knows, since we always see the US vs Denmark vs Luxembourg vs Monaco vs Vatican City
dwighttk 8y ago
I'd also be interested in how Life Expectancy at Birth is calculated in advance.
- gumby 8y ago
  It’s really just death rate at the time the newborn is born: if x% of the population died in 2016 and that never changed going forward, how long would the mean person born that year live (given that people born in earlier years would be dying at their rate, contributing to the formula. So technically not actually predicting an expected lifespan (thermonuclear war could happen after all) but allows longitudinal and secular analysis.
  - dwighttk 8y ago
    ok, so infant mortality from that year doesn't effect the number? (any more specifically than those deaths adding to the overall death rate)
    - gumby 8y ago
      Yes it does
      - dwighttk 8y ago
        How?
        gumby 8y ago
        I described the approach in my first comment: for 2018 (now it's over) look at the death rate and then apply estimate it uniformly going forward for all recorded births during the year until the surviving population goes to nil. The death rate is all the people who died, whether 1 jan or 31 dec regardless of the age of the deceased. If you want greater resolution on a process like this you'll do better to search yourself than to reply on HN commenters like me.
wil421 8y ago
I’d like to see the E.U. as a whole vs US. It would also be interesting to see the States mapped against the countries in the article.
petschge 8y ago
Given statistics that show that blue states tend to do much better on life expectancy I have the feeling that nobody wants to publish that break down as it will only result in a partisan shouting match and drown out the larger message that the US is really failing to provide health care (as opposed to a for-pay health system) to its citizens.
cxseven 8y ago
The Bible Belt is running out of notches
- dwighttk 8y ago
  what?
  - kbutler 8y ago
    An attempted pun on a belt running out of notches as you loosen it to accommodate increased girth, and the Bible Belt leading the obesity statistics. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3866220/figure/F1/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3866220/figure/...

I would imagine that there is maybe a few small states that does well, but it's unlikely to be one outlier that draws the entire chart down.

dwighttk 8y ago
there could be a few large states where the expenditures are astronomical, pulling the whole US to the right... Who knows, since we always see the US vs Denmark vs Luxembourg vs Monaco vs Vatican City

dwighttk 8y ago

I'd also be interested in how Life Expectancy at Birth is calculated in advance.

gumby 8y ago
It’s really just death rate at the time the newborn is born: if x% of the population died in 2016 and that never changed going forward, how long would the mean person born that year live (given that people born in earlier years would be dying at their rate, contributing to the formula. So technically not actually predicting an expected lifespan (thermonuclear war could happen after all) but allows longitudinal and secular analysis.
- dwighttk 8y ago
  ok, so infant mortality from that year doesn't effect the number? (any more specifically than those deaths adding to the overall death rate)
  - gumby 8y ago
    Yes it does
    - dwighttk 8y ago
      How?
      - gumby 8y ago
        I described the approach in my first comment: for 2018 (now it's over) look at the death rate and then apply estimate it uniformly going forward for all recorded births during the year until the surviving population goes to nil. The death rate is all the people who died, whether 1 jan or 31 dec regardless of the age of the deceased. If you want greater resolution on a process like this you'll do better to search yourself than to reply on HN commenters like me.

wil421 8y ago

I’d like to see the E.U. as a whole vs US. It would also be interesting to see the States mapped against the countries in the article.

petschge 8y ago

Given statistics that show that blue states tend to do much better on life expectancy I have the feeling that nobody wants to publish that break down as it will only result in a partisan shouting match and drown out the larger message that the US is really failing to provide health care (as opposed to a for-pay health system) to its citizens.

cxseven 8y ago

The Bible Belt is running out of notches

dwighttk 8y ago
what?
- kbutler 8y ago
  An attempted pun on a belt running out of notches as you loosen it to accommodate increased girth, and the Bible Belt leading the obesity statistics. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3866220/figure/F1/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3866220/figure/...