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> I think there is no evidence of the mechanisms you describe. Which part? If we are talking about this part: >> I think that there's an element of validation
by codetrotter 8y ago
> I think there is no evidence of the mechanisms you describe.
Which part? If we are talking about this part:
>> I think that there's an element of validation and indoctrination that is a serious concern here.
Then I think there is evidence of that being true.
Take for example “incels”. They gather in online forums where they construct a worldview built entirely on misogyny, entitlement and hate. The ideas they are spreading among themselves are much worse than probably most of those people would come up with on their own. In their echo chambers they validate these ideas to one-another and make them seem acceptable.
https://www.ft.com/content/d71f3156-f94d-11e8-af46-2022a0b02a6c https://www.ft.com/content/d71f3156-f94d-11e8-af46-2022a0b02...
- m712 8y agoYou are accusing an entire group of people of an action that you deem unacceptable. That is rather discriminatory of you.
- codetrotter 8y agoNo, I am literally talking about the group of “incels” that are specifically engaging in hate speech. The people I am talking about here are outright promoting rape, violence and child abuse. Not indirectly. Not between the lines. Just straight up stating those kinds of things.
- GoblinSlayer 8y ago>hate speech https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/19/supreme-court-unanimously-reaffirms-there-is-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/201...
- DanBC 8y agoIt seems fair enough to say that literal murders are unacceptable.
- cf141q5325 8y agoThose horrible people still exist either way, they just dont say out loud what they think. You dont restrict people thinking that way but people talking out loud about it. The no platform approach was rather successful in Germany when it came to pushing the extreme right out of the public discourse and banning their parties. But that only works as long as they dont organize a platform of their own. Then you have a far right party rising into parliament and entering as the second largest party in some states. People dont change you just filter them from your view of reality. And its no surprise people who bothered to look knew rather well that they existed.