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Can you elaborate more on how it can be caught and make users more trackable? Even if there are more "signals", individual advertisers won't necessarily be able

Can you elaborate more on how it can be caught and make users more trackable? Even if there are more "signals", individual advertisers won't necessarily be able to know that the same user clicked on all other advertisers' links.

varelaz 8y ago
As more web pages you visit, as more tracking markers you've get. Yes, your tracking history will be skewed because of random clicking, it's kind of GIGO effect, but such kind of junk data is very easy to filter out. When you clicking on everything you provide too much events, which become suspicious and irrelevant. Also all clicks are made in background, which means that there is no rendering, no view tracking, which is obviously easy to catch. Check how vCPM and viewability work.
- sanxiyn 8y ago
  Note that AdNauseam allows you to configure probabilistic clicking so that it's harder to filter out.
  - varelaz 8y ago
    Once your IP is detected as fraud it's trivial. There are various ways to do this. For example invisible links that you cannot click unless you're bot.
    - mg794613 8y ago
      Perfect, mission accomplished ;)
- ilikehurdles 8y ago
  The question is: so what? Networks filtering out your pageview is an objective of this extension, and like you said, any network worth its price is going to actively monitor for automated traffic. They’re not going to bid on known bots.
rvnx 8y ago
Networks generally keep clickstream information a longer period of time than requests stream because requests can be counted in terms of billions per day and eventually very expensive to store. When you visit a website, your request may normally be stored like 3 days, but when you click, it may be stored 3 months.
- ilikehurdles 8y ago
  Yea and eventually these advertisers decide you’re a bot and stop bidding on your pageview. That sounds like a win to me. They’re not going to waste their money serving to automated traffic.
  - citrablue 8y ago
    Has anyone reported that they stopped seeing ads because nobody wanted to bid on them? You'll always find a bidder if the CPM is low enough. I think if anything, you'll see more and more shady ads because you are now remnant inventory. Ads for scams, targeted to super cheap RPM groups.

varelaz 8y ago

As more web pages you visit, as more tracking markers you've get. Yes, your tracking history will be skewed because of random clicking, it's kind of GIGO effect, but such kind of junk data is very easy to filter out. When you clicking on everything you provide too much events, which become suspicious and irrelevant. Also all clicks are made in background, which means that there is no rendering, no view tracking, which is obviously easy to catch. Check how vCPM and viewability work.

sanxiyn 8y ago
Note that AdNauseam allows you to configure probabilistic clicking so that it's harder to filter out.
- varelaz 8y ago
  Once your IP is detected as fraud it's trivial. There are various ways to do this. For example invisible links that you cannot click unless you're bot.
  - mg794613 8y ago
    Perfect, mission accomplished ;)
ilikehurdles 8y ago
The question is: so what? Networks filtering out your pageview is an objective of this extension, and like you said, any network worth its price is going to actively monitor for automated traffic. They’re not going to bid on known bots.

rvnx 8y ago

Networks generally keep clickstream information a longer period of time than requests stream because requests can be counted in terms of billions per day and eventually very expensive to store. When you visit a website, your request may normally be stored like 3 days, but when you click, it may be stored 3 months.

ilikehurdles 8y ago
Yea and eventually these advertisers decide you’re a bot and stop bidding on your pageview. That sounds like a win to me. They’re not going to waste their money serving to automated traffic.
- citrablue 8y ago
  Has anyone reported that they stopped seeing ads because nobody wanted to bid on them? You'll always find a bidder if the CPM is low enough. I think if anything, you'll see more and more shady ads because you are now remnant inventory. Ads for scams, targeted to super cheap RPM groups.