> Just wait for the vim guy who will be like "but muh java plugins make it more efficient then IntelliJ"... I think you described the base of most arguments in

> Just wait for the vim guy who will be like "but muh java plugins make it more efficient then IntelliJ"... I think you described the base of most arguments in that direction right there. The problem to either side isn't so much what the other side's doing (who cares, really? To each their own…). Usually, those discussions are fueled by people asserting how obviously the respective other side is inferior without having even had a proper look at it. My bias tells me there's much more of those on the IDE side, but I expect that's due to the way people are introduced to programming (if one "population" tends to be much bigger than the other, I suppose there's a higher chance of someone belonging to it starting a flamewar. And, of course, if it's also prone to have more newbies in it, the probability of… unaware statements also rises).