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> Cooking on an induction stovetop instead of gas. Congratulations, you have banned Chinese food. I’m reasonably confident most professional chefs and a lot of

> Cooking on an induction stovetop instead of gas. Congratulations, you have banned Chinese food. I’m reasonably confident most professional chefs and a lot of amateurs would be very, very angry if you tried to ban cooking with gas. People aren’t actually willing to make sacrifices to their own personal quality of life to fight climate change as we’ve seen many times with carbon taxes or with the yellow vest movement in France.

fastbeef 8y ago
I'd say that resturant-grade induction stovetops perform as good as or even outperform gas.
mikekchar 8y ago
Actually induction woks are amazing. You can get them as hot as gas. Here's a really bad Youtube video showing some guys testing one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUuu6nRT29Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUuu6nRT29Y They aren't cheap though. I seriously want one :-) But your general point is well taken.
perfunctory 8y ago
> with carbon taxes or with the yellow vest movement in France. I believe the main problem with yellow vests was that they balanced raised diesel tax by eliminating wealth tax. Had they instead reduced income tax in the lowest bracket for example, people might have been much less angry.
AstralStorm 8y ago
As far as I'm aware, Chinese food is cooked in pans, not over open flame. But, you've banned the kebab shop instead. They will have to use the slower heated stone frying. ;)
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patall 8y ago
In addition to what others have said, you could still use biogas or synthetic derivatives when you really have to. It becomes more expensive and people do not like that but I would not call it a ban.
Broken_Hippo 8y ago
Not really. Induction boils water faster most times - there are multiple videos showing this, my link is just one of them. I'm pretty sure you can get quick and very hot with the induction tops. If you specialise in wok-type food, i'm pretty sure they will be customised to be even better. https://youtu.be/h45dzeugIZw https://youtu.be/h45dzeugIZw
- jamil7 8y ago
  My understanding is the preference for gas is more about being able to instantly adjust the heat and see it rather than the raw heat output. I also haven't used an induction top in a long time so maybe this is better now.
  - PeterisP 8y ago
    Being able to instantly adjust heat works great for induction devices; you can go from 0 to 100% and back to 0 pretty much immediately, the only limit is the heat inertia of your pan/pot/wok/whatever. Being able to see that heat is different - yes, gas flame is more visible and intuitive.
    - jamil7 8y ago
      Thanks for clarifying, didn't know it was so instant.
zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago
Well, not sure anyone would actually mind working with induction woks, but if you really need "natural gas", you can generate that using electricity as well. And not only can you do that, it's actually a thing that's being done right now, as a method of storing surplus renewable energy: You simply use it to generate methane and feed that into the existing natural gas distribution infrastructure for storage, and as a side effect you displace some fossil fuel.
D_Alex 8y ago
>Congratulations, you have banned Chinese food. No, I have not. Stop being silly.

fastbeef 8y ago

I'd say that resturant-grade induction stovetops perform as good as or even outperform gas.

mikekchar 8y ago

Actually induction woks are amazing. You can get them as hot as gas. Here's a really bad Youtube video showing some guys testing one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUuu6nRT29Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUuu6nRT29Y They aren't cheap though. I seriously want one :-) But your general point is well taken.

perfunctory 8y ago

> with carbon taxes or with the yellow vest movement in France. I believe the main problem with yellow vests was that they balanced raised diesel tax by eliminating wealth tax. Had they instead reduced income tax in the lowest bracket for example, people might have been much less angry.

AstralStorm 8y ago

As far as I'm aware, Chinese food is cooked in pans, not over open flame. But, you've banned the kebab shop instead. They will have to use the slower heated stone frying. ;)

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patall 8y ago

In addition to what others have said, you could still use biogas or synthetic derivatives when you really have to. It becomes more expensive and people do not like that but I would not call it a ban.

Broken_Hippo 8y ago

Not really. Induction boils water faster most times - there are multiple videos showing this, my link is just one of them. I'm pretty sure you can get quick and very hot with the induction tops. If you specialise in wok-type food, i'm pretty sure they will be customised to be even better. https://youtu.be/h45dzeugIZw https://youtu.be/h45dzeugIZw

jamil7 8y ago
My understanding is the preference for gas is more about being able to instantly adjust the heat and see it rather than the raw heat output. I also haven't used an induction top in a long time so maybe this is better now.
- PeterisP 8y ago
  Being able to instantly adjust heat works great for induction devices; you can go from 0 to 100% and back to 0 pretty much immediately, the only limit is the heat inertia of your pan/pot/wok/whatever. Being able to see that heat is different - yes, gas flame is more visible and intuitive.
  - jamil7 8y ago
    Thanks for clarifying, didn't know it was so instant.

zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago

Well, not sure anyone would actually mind working with induction woks, but if you really need "natural gas", you can generate that using electricity as well. And not only can you do that, it's actually a thing that's being done right now, as a method of storing surplus renewable energy: You simply use it to generate methane and feed that into the existing natural gas distribution infrastructure for storage, and as a side effect you displace some fossil fuel.

D_Alex 8y ago

>Congratulations, you have banned Chinese food. No, I have not. Stop being silly.