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Including the estimated gas savings is extremely misleading. I want to know how much the car will cost upfront, not how much I will save over some number of yea

Including the estimated gas savings is extremely misleading. I want to know how much the car will cost upfront, not how much I will save over some number of years. And how do they determine the savings? If I am cross-shopping with a Chevy bolt, there won't be any gas savings... Surprised they put that on their, it really negatively impact my view of Tesla.

leesec 8y ago
Did you look at the site? It lists 35k up front, and then lists estimated payment after incentive secondary.
- GhostVII 8y ago
  Sure, and that is still very misleading because they are bundling gas savings along with government incentives that you will get upfront. I expect the cost after estimated savings to be the actual cost I pay upfront, not the savings over some car I would never buy in the first place, and I don't think you should ever mix upfront cost with long term savings when listing prices. Very misleading.
Theodores 8y ago
They are underplaying this aspect of saving on the petrol. If we were in 1973 then it would be different, in today's world we are a Trump brain-fart away from a 1973 situation, for instance in Venezuela and what would happen if the Chinese and Russians decided 'we aren't playing any more'? Sure the U.S. is now god-blessed with the fracking miracle but the gas savings is also an option to be independent of the big oil companies. That could be worth more than $$$ to prepper-mentality Americans. The prices didn't even go up that much in 1973 but a lot of queues and rationing went on. The 55 mph speed limit came in. It was not happy times. If Tesla were a bit more frank they would mention this independence aspect, as it is they don't want to scare the children. Nobody knows what petrol prices will be next month so there is no way anyone can put a figure on savings. That said there are plenty of people who have swapped to Tesla and have the electricity bills to prove that the advertised savings are real.

leesec 8y ago

Did you look at the site? It lists 35k up front, and then lists estimated payment after incentive secondary.

GhostVII 8y ago
Sure, and that is still very misleading because they are bundling gas savings along with government incentives that you will get upfront. I expect the cost after estimated savings to be the actual cost I pay upfront, not the savings over some car I would never buy in the first place, and I don't think you should ever mix upfront cost with long term savings when listing prices. Very misleading.

Theodores 8y ago

They are underplaying this aspect of saving on the petrol. If we were in 1973 then it would be different, in today's world we are a Trump brain-fart away from a 1973 situation, for instance in Venezuela and what would happen if the Chinese and Russians decided 'we aren't playing any more'? Sure the U.S. is now god-blessed with the fracking miracle but the gas savings is also an option to be independent of the big oil companies. That could be worth more than $$$ to prepper-mentality Americans. The prices didn't even go up that much in 1973 but a lot of queues and rationing went on. The 55 mph speed limit came in. It was not happy times. If Tesla were a bit more frank they would mention this independence aspect, as it is they don't want to scare the children. Nobody knows what petrol prices will be next month so there is no way anyone can put a figure on savings. That said there are plenty of people who have swapped to Tesla and have the electricity bills to prove that the advertised savings are real.