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I just looked at a paper on Elsevier's site, and saw that it was $36, while a paper on IEEExplore was $33 (non-member price). I open to the idea that the IEEE

I just looked at a paper on Elsevier's site, and saw that it was $36, while a paper on IEEExplore was $33 (non-member price). I open to the idea that the IEEE is less expensive than Elsevier, yet not convinced that there is a big difference. To be clear, the IEEE does have good journals, and is the best place to publish for many. There are countless volunteer reviewers and editors and officers who do great work. My impression is that the paid IEEE bureaucracy (in New Jersey?) are designed for a pre-Internet age. While cutting-edge cryptographic techniques is published in the journals, the IEEE email alias has terrible security. I guess this is a common story, and I'm expecting too much...

droithomme 8y ago
> $36 vs $33 Maybe it's only me but both those prices are extremely steep. $1 would be more viable, IMO.
- freyir 8y ago
  Most of the world's population can not afford access to this information. All while they charge authors, charge readers, soliciting volunteers to do the work for free, and publish academic research paid for by taxpayers. It's shameful.
- wongarsu 8y ago
  Even more so because you won't read only one paper on a topic. Doing even superficial research gets expensive quickly at those prices.
newen 8y ago
I was a grad student, so I might have a skewed view of these things since I have access to these subscriptions via the university library, but does anyone actually pay (especially that much money) for access to a single article like that? It seems really crazy to me since to do a decent amount of research into something, you would have to go through dozens of articles that are behind paywalls.
satya71 8y ago
I don't think many pay the single paper price at IEEE, which I agree is outrageous. I pay a annual membership of around $300 for unlimited access to all the important papers within my field of interest. They recently introduced a reduced rate membership for developing countries as well.

droithomme 8y ago

> $36 vs $33 Maybe it's only me but both those prices are extremely steep. $1 would be more viable, IMO.

freyir 8y ago
Most of the world's population can not afford access to this information. All while they charge authors, charge readers, soliciting volunteers to do the work for free, and publish academic research paid for by taxpayers. It's shameful.
wongarsu 8y ago
Even more so because you won't read only one paper on a topic. Doing even superficial research gets expensive quickly at those prices.

newen 8y ago

I was a grad student, so I might have a skewed view of these things since I have access to these subscriptions via the university library, but does anyone actually pay (especially that much money) for access to a single article like that? It seems really crazy to me since to do a decent amount of research into something, you would have to go through dozens of articles that are behind paywalls.

satya71 8y ago

I don't think many pay the single paper price at IEEE, which I agree is outrageous. I pay a annual membership of around $300 for unlimited access to all the important papers within my field of interest. They recently introduced a reduced rate membership for developing countries as well.