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For one thing, 01100011's comment is ambiguous: as in, "This is an off-topic comment, but <whines about model [sic] dialog>", or "I find this submission to be o

For one thing, 01100011's comment is ambiguous: as in, "This is an off-topic comment, but <whines about model [sic] dialog>", or "I find this submission to be off-topic". Charitably, let's say it's the former. Still, the discussion got off to an acrimonious start. Submission is clearly on-topic. Country sets up concentration camps; big tech aids and abets at every turn; Google comes this close to building them a bespoke censorship machine. Clearly relevant in a technical forum, beyond merely "gratify[ing] intellectual curiosity". Never forget: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehomag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehomag As far as the quantity of downvotes, far be it from me to suggest that a nationalistic pride and defensiveness might grip the Xi regime's many apologists.

thratchnee 8y ago
Of course, everyone that disagrees with you is a foreign shill.
peisistratos 8y ago
I read and watch the Western news nowadays - Trump is a Russian spy as are his staff, the majority of UKers voted Brexit because of the Russians, the yellow vests are Russian backed, the Italian five stars are Russian stooges. Anything the establishment doesn't like is Russia's doing - including the elections in Italy, the US and UK. I just watched TV today where the congressmen and commentators talked about Trump's lawyer and the Russians are behind everything. Western liberals have really gone mad. It's like 50s McCarthyism jumped to the other party. We have been hearing this for over a century actually, about Russia being why people want what they want versus what the elite want, even before the 1924 Zinoviev letter. Maybe the Chinese are next in line for this mainstream conspiracy mindedness.
- greesil 8y ago
  Honest question. What does this have to do with the topic?
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- Arn_Thor 8y ago
  Evidence abounds that Russia has funded disinformation efforts, and several indictments have been served to Russian agents and spies that have been working in the US on disinformation campaigns and spying. There's also ample evidence they funded and affected the Leave campaign. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/20/us/politics/russia-interference-election-trump-clinton.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/20/us/politics/r... https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-bad-boys-of-brexit-forged-ties-with-russia-and-the-trump-campaign--and-came-under-investigators-scrutiny/2018/06/28/6e3a5e9c-7656-11e8-b4b7-308400242c2e_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-bad-boys-of-... https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41182519 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41182519 https://www.axios.com/senate-reports-russian-interference-2016-election-9d0daca6-1e2d-4617-9295-f8eec61c1719.html https://www.axios.com/senate-reports-russian-interference-20... https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/m...
ImaCake 8y ago
Despite the relatively small size of the HN community, there does appear to be organised action against certain topics here. I often find unusually contentious comments in threads on Chinese and American policies (seperately).

thratchnee 8y ago

Of course, everyone that disagrees with you is a foreign shill.

peisistratos 8y ago

I read and watch the Western news nowadays - Trump is a Russian spy as are his staff, the majority of UKers voted Brexit because of the Russians, the yellow vests are Russian backed, the Italian five stars are Russian stooges. Anything the establishment doesn't like is Russia's doing - including the elections in Italy, the US and UK. I just watched TV today where the congressmen and commentators talked about Trump's lawyer and the Russians are behind everything. Western liberals have really gone mad. It's like 50s McCarthyism jumped to the other party. We have been hearing this for over a century actually, about Russia being why people want what they want versus what the elite want, even before the 1924 Zinoviev letter. Maybe the Chinese are next in line for this mainstream conspiracy mindedness.

greesil 8y ago
Honest question. What does this have to do with the topic?
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  [deleted]
Arn_Thor 8y ago
Evidence abounds that Russia has funded disinformation efforts, and several indictments have been served to Russian agents and spies that have been working in the US on disinformation campaigns and spying. There's also ample evidence they funded and affected the Leave campaign. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/20/us/politics/russia-interference-election-trump-clinton.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/20/us/politics/r... https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-bad-boys-of-brexit-forged-ties-with-russia-and-the-trump-campaign--and-came-under-investigators-scrutiny/2018/06/28/6e3a5e9c-7656-11e8-b4b7-308400242c2e_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-bad-boys-of-... https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41182519 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41182519 https://www.axios.com/senate-reports-russian-interference-2016-election-9d0daca6-1e2d-4617-9295-f8eec61c1719.html https://www.axios.com/senate-reports-russian-interference-20... https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/m...

ImaCake 8y ago

Despite the relatively small size of the HN community, there does appear to be organised action against certain topics here. I often find unusually contentious comments in threads on Chinese and American policies (seperately).