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Re: Girls consistently outperform boys academically. And yet, men nonetheless hold a staggering 95 percent of the top positions in the largest public companies.
by tabtab 8y ago
Re: Girls consistently outperform boys academically. And yet, men nonetheless hold a staggering 95 percent of the top positions in the largest public companies.
The top positions are dominated by obsessive workaholics. In my opinion women are genetically wired to focus more on family. Long hours and business travel heavily cut into caring for family. I'm not making a value judgement, just an observation. While I do believe there is gender discrimination at work: people tend to hire clones of themselves, there are biological factors also.
- natalyarostova 8y agoI find the abstraction of men vs. women to not be the optimal one. Or rather, another (better) way to ask the question, is "Why are the obsessive, power-hungry, workaholics who hold these positions, primarily men?" Rather than "Why do men do better than women?
- manyxcxi 8y agoExcept you’re implying that they are doing better in the first place... Look, I’m pretty much an obsessive workaholic myself (getting better now that we’ve got kids) and I was making about 5x of what my wife was making when I met her. She’s got a 4 year degree from a nice private university and I went to state university. She is absolutely every bit as smart and hard working as I am, but she never wanted a career in an office. In our first few years together I helped her with her resume, suggested all the work she was doing would absolutely qualify her for making at least twice as much as she was making and she just didn’t want to play the game. She wanted to be a mom, and didn’t even want to play the game until motherhood showed up. If she did what I do every day (at now almost 20x what she was making when I met her) she’d jump out a window. Conversely I wouldn’t take double the pay I’m making to stay home with the kids, I love ‘em, but jeez- I don’t know how my wife does it. She would definitely not consider herself doing better if we swapped places. And I think that’s the key. Man or woman, some people just don’t have the same goals, and running a company and making lots of money don’t necessarily play any part in what they aspire to do.
- natalyarostova 8y agoYeah. While it's important to make sure women who, for whatever reason, want to do this, are not dismissed on behalf of their gender (and this definitely happens), it's also a little lazy to do men vs. women, and interpret the difference as a signal of a social disparity.
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- YeGoblynQueenne 8y ago>> In my opinion women are genetically wired to focus more on family. What does "genetically wired" mean?
- malcolmgreaves 8y agoNothing - the man behind the username is outting himself as a simple minded human who discriminates on the basis of sex when there are no reasonable, logical reasons to do so.
- 2chen 8y agoLet's put aside the argument of whether the role women play as familial caretakers is "genetically wired" or encouraged by cultural norms. There is undeniably a huge genetic difference between men and women that leads to all sorts of different outcomes in health, athletics, etc. That IS the perfectly reasonable and logical reasonable to discriminate on the basis of sex, which we do all the time.
- CryptoPunk 8y agoIt means having two X chromosomes is associated with particular behavioral traits, just as it's associated with physiological traits.
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- YeGoblynQueenne 8y agoI don't understand what you mean by "associated". How are chromosomes associated with behaviour? Also, what are "behavioural traits"? Is picking one's nose a "behavioual trait", for example? Is that associated with one's chromosomes?
- CryptoPunk 8y agoAssociated means correlated with.. I gave you an analogy of chromosomes being associated with physical traits. >>How are chromosomes associated with behaviour? The same way they're associated with physiological traits. Personality traits are not all learned. There is a large genetic effect on behaviour. There is plenty of scientific evidence for this. >>Is picking one's nose a "behavioual trait", for example? How am I supposed to know that? Why would any researcher conduct a study to uncover that?
- tabtab 8y agoWho ever flagged this "away", I would really like to know why. Flagging is not feedback; you can't fix people by flagging. If I'm wrong or bad, please explain with strong evidence & logic how I am wrong or bad. Is that asking too much? Arrrrg. -tabtab