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Is there an option which gives you good panel fitment and unharmed paint upon delivery?

by microcolonel 8y ago

natch 8y ago
Those were problems with some early deliveries. Things have improved a lot over time.
- microcolonel 8y ago
  > Things have improved a lot over time. I'm going by what I've seen of people receiving orders in the last few months, over what time has it improved? If you buy one now, will the fitment compare to (for example) GM by the time it is delivered? How likely is the paint to be scratched all the way through to the base coat on delivery? I want to believe that they can make these things right, but honestly I can not have that much faith in them given what I've seen.
  - natch 8y ago
    There are a lot of haters and short sellers out there and they can be especially vocal, so I’d just say take what you’ve seen online with a grain of salt.
    - microcolonel 8y ago
      Exhibit A: Notorious Tesla hater and shortseller[0]; deceiving us all with his pesky rulers and loupes. Sarcasm aside, I'm inclined to be charitable to Tesla, but quality issues abound with every generation of Tesla products; and while things have improved, they are behind the industry in many areas. [0]: https://youtu.be/FSLTNjGI8hw https://youtu.be/FSLTNjGI8hw
      - natch 8y ago
        Yeah they are behind in some areas, and WAY ahead in others. If people go in with their eyes open, and their priorities straight, they'll be fine. But one point that seems to get lost is that the reported quality issues have gotten way better. That car in the video is I'll admit quite ridiculous -- I'm guessing it is an anomaly though. My car had nothing like that and I did inspect it carefully on delivery (I guess this guy did not). I don't think anyone is forcing you to take delivery if you get an insanely scratched car like that, but certainly it's fair to expect that a car company would not try to deliver such a scratched car in the first place. I just don't think it represents the normal experience these days.
  - sowbug 8y ago
    You might want to compare other makes, assuming "given what I've seen" is purely anecdotal: https://www.google.com/search?q=honda+paint+defects+on+delivery https://www.google.com/search?q=honda+paint+defects+on+deliv... https://www.google.com/search?q=bmw+paint+defects+on+delivery+-tesla https://www.google.com/search?q=bmw+paint+defects+on+deliver... https://www.google.com/search?q=chevy+paint+defects+on+delivery https://www.google.com/search?q=chevy+paint+defects+on+deliv...

Is there an option which gives you good panel fitment and unharmed paint upon delivery?

natch 8y ago

Those were problems with some early deliveries. Things have improved a lot over time.

microcolonel 8y ago
> Things have improved a lot over time. I'm going by what I've seen of people receiving orders in the last few months, over what time has it improved? If you buy one now, will the fitment compare to (for example) GM by the time it is delivered? How likely is the paint to be scratched all the way through to the base coat on delivery? I want to believe that they can make these things right, but honestly I can not have that much faith in them given what I've seen.
- natch 8y ago
  There are a lot of haters and short sellers out there and they can be especially vocal, so I’d just say take what you’ve seen online with a grain of salt.
  - microcolonel 8y ago
    Exhibit A: Notorious Tesla hater and shortseller[0]; deceiving us all with his pesky rulers and loupes. Sarcasm aside, I'm inclined to be charitable to Tesla, but quality issues abound with every generation of Tesla products; and while things have improved, they are behind the industry in many areas. [0]: https://youtu.be/FSLTNjGI8hw https://youtu.be/FSLTNjGI8hw
    - natch 8y ago
      Yeah they are behind in some areas, and WAY ahead in others. If people go in with their eyes open, and their priorities straight, they'll be fine. But one point that seems to get lost is that the reported quality issues have gotten way better. That car in the video is I'll admit quite ridiculous -- I'm guessing it is an anomaly though. My car had nothing like that and I did inspect it carefully on delivery (I guess this guy did not). I don't think anyone is forcing you to take delivery if you get an insanely scratched car like that, but certainly it's fair to expect that a car company would not try to deliver such a scratched car in the first place. I just don't think it represents the normal experience these days.
- sowbug 8y ago
  You might want to compare other makes, assuming "given what I've seen" is purely anecdotal: https://www.google.com/search?q=honda+paint+defects+on+delivery https://www.google.com/search?q=honda+paint+defects+on+deliv... https://www.google.com/search?q=bmw+paint+defects+on+delivery+-tesla https://www.google.com/search?q=bmw+paint+defects+on+deliver... https://www.google.com/search?q=chevy+paint+defects+on+delivery https://www.google.com/search?q=chevy+paint+defects+on+deliv...