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There's been a video on yt about a real airline pilot reviewing the sully movie [0]. The comment section is filled with people from the field, pilots, turbine t

by est31 8y ago

There's been a video on yt about a real airline pilot reviewing the sully movie [0]. The comment section is filled with people from the field, pilots, turbine technicians, etc. Even Sully's Co-pilot Jeff Skiles HIMSELF commented on the video. While there are usually tons of low quality "upvote this comment if watching in 2019" things, this thread was wonderful. And I think if the comments were hosted on a different site e.g. some pilot specific website (there are probably such), or even twitter, I think I wouldn't have found those comments. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXfWU_ER3Mg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXfWU_ER3Mg

derefr 8y ago
Were there any valuable comments that weren't root-level (or that wouldn't have been made as root-level comments if it were impossible to reply to comments)? I ask because I feel like you're describing the same sort of system I am in my sibling reply below: > But really, if content creators want to get "feedback", they just need a thing that's essentially like email—a separate private channel between them and each audience-member—but where you can easily forward a whole email thread, after the fact, to the content host, and it'll appear below the content in an FAQs section. Sort of like how reviews work in some digital storefronts. If all such comments were submitted knowing they'd just be treated as "private feedback" by default, with the moderator having the option to promote such feedback to appearing as a public "comment" [which, yes, isn't that different from "comments with pre-moderation", except for different expectations on commentors' parts], do you think that (valuable!) thread still could have happened?
- est31 8y ago
  Yeah, Jeff Skiles's comment got a lot of replies and he replied to some of them. This spontaneous AMA thing was definitely valuable, made the guy even more approachable! Cramming everything into one flat thread has already been done in phpbb and works for small threads but big threads get into issues when you are not interested in every part of the discussion but only some.
  - derefr 8y ago
    How about a modification of my proposal: 1. the creator has their own private forum (e.g. a Discord group); 2. you, as a potenial commenter, can easily join said group as a guest, with your YouTube credentials used to identify you in the group; 3. or you can also just post "into" the group without joining it, using the form below the video; 4. the community itself can be deputized to moderate such comments; 5. the community can have all sorts of thought-provoking discussions in response to such comments, visible to one-another in the (private) group; 6. the content-creator would have an easy interface to "highlight" any given thread/subtree of conversation from the group, making it into a visible comment thread appearing below the video. Essentially, this proposal would just take each YouTube channel, and make its comments section into a private forum under the content-creator's control; and then, separately, make the "comments section" below the video into a sort of moderated "best of" version of that forum's discussion of the given post.
    - kkarakk 8y ago
      just promotes a "goto reddit/discord" mentality which hurts discussion once reddit/discord cracks down on your interests.

by est31 8y ago

derefr 8y ago

Were there any valuable comments that weren't root-level (or that wouldn't have been made as root-level comments if it were impossible to reply to comments)? I ask because I feel like you're describing the same sort of system I am in my sibling reply below: > But really, if content creators want to get "feedback", they just need a thing that's essentially like email—a separate private channel between them and each audience-member—but where you can easily forward a whole email thread, after the fact, to the content host, and it'll appear below the content in an FAQs section. Sort of like how reviews work in some digital storefronts. If all such comments were submitted knowing they'd just be treated as "private feedback" by default, with the moderator having the option to promote such feedback to appearing as a public "comment" [which, yes, isn't that different from "comments with pre-moderation", except for different expectations on commentors' parts], do you think that (valuable!) thread still could have happened?

est31 8y ago
Yeah, Jeff Skiles's comment got a lot of replies and he replied to some of them. This spontaneous AMA thing was definitely valuable, made the guy even more approachable! Cramming everything into one flat thread has already been done in phpbb and works for small threads but big threads get into issues when you are not interested in every part of the discussion but only some.
- derefr 8y ago
  How about a modification of my proposal: 1. the creator has their own private forum (e.g. a Discord group); 2. you, as a potenial commenter, can easily join said group as a guest, with your YouTube credentials used to identify you in the group; 3. or you can also just post "into" the group without joining it, using the form below the video; 4. the community itself can be deputized to moderate such comments; 5. the community can have all sorts of thought-provoking discussions in response to such comments, visible to one-another in the (private) group; 6. the content-creator would have an easy interface to "highlight" any given thread/subtree of conversation from the group, making it into a visible comment thread appearing below the video. Essentially, this proposal would just take each YouTube channel, and make its comments section into a private forum under the content-creator's control; and then, separately, make the "comments section" below the video into a sort of moderated "best of" version of that forum's discussion of the given post.
  - kkarakk 8y ago
    just promotes a "goto reddit/discord" mentality which hurts discussion once reddit/discord cracks down on your interests.